First I rightfully still do not endorse any Christians adds, anyone, any person, any organization, any Church  now trying to make any money from  the gospel, or begging, asking for money or even  any of the adds here.  I also do not endorse any of  Bibles, books, tapes listed here for sale too. Jesus said as we have freely received so we are freely to give. Hirelings in their greed and visible lack of faith don't do that. I do believe we should have the faith for God to supply what anyone needs  freely to anyone who needs it. 

 

Christianity today

 A true Christian believers set of beliefs, doctrines is based on what the Holy Spirit himself who also is God himself now teaches you and me and his teachings they  will not contradict the Bible..  and it is not rather based solely on what an angel or other men may teach us too.
 (Luke 1:79 KJV)  To give light to them that sit in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the way of peace.
 
(John 16:13 KJV)  Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will show you things to come.
  
But of course if  any others because they  really still do not know God and/or  because they are doing "your own thing", following their own will, and/or have not died to Jesus Christ, they  thus are not open to the Holy Spirit himself to talk  with them thus they really should find out why too!  otherwise  they  will mostly allow the false men, false angels to deceive themeslves instead..
 
So how are they  dealing with Jesus Christ firstly.. is he personally rightfully their  Lord, Savior, or are they  just playing a religious game?
 
So the other  real question as to whether apostles, prophets, pastor teachers exists today as in the Time of Jesus Christ first needs to be superseded by the question as to whether all true Christians are now also anointed by the Holy Spirit, Anointed, Greek word ,  Christos meaning one who shows evidence of the holy Spirit..  and the answer is yes... all true Christians are evidentiary now also anointed by the Holy Spirit, and if the other people cannot see this you certainly are not a true Christian.
 
Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses, Dispensationalists  too, and many others they  also are not Christians-  certainly thus not anointed by the Holy Sprit,    and not by along shot.. for they had missed out as to who Jesus Christ the Messiah was, and not just who who the Holy Spirit is.. so how can they even be anointed ones..  Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses, Dispensationalists  are a  religion yes, but the true religion? certainly not.
 
Human reason logic, is corrupt and limited.. learning how to now hear God talking to you firstly is what everyone should learn..  I have absolutely no doubt the devil talks to me, but so do God, the Holy sprit and Jesus separately as well too.. for decades now too.
 
(Luke 15:6 KJV)  And when he cometh home, he calleth together his friends and neighbours, saying unto them, Rejoice with me; for I have found my sheep which was lost.
 
(John 10:14 KJV)  I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine. (John 10:5 KJV)  And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.
 
(John 13:36 KJV)  Simon Peter said unto him, Lord, whither goest thou? Jesus answered him, Whither I go, thou canst not follow me now; but thou shalt follow me afterwards.
 
(John 10:26 KJV)  But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
 
(John 10:27 KJV)  My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:28  And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.  29  My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.  30  I and my Father are one.
 
(John 21:17 KJV)  He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep.

I am also fascinated as to how I can make the same post on various sites, even professing Christian  and get contrasting  different responses to it..

Like I often get this typical response - "A hearty AMEN! Thanks for your comment. Be blessed. "

and yet I also get the clearly negative ones..

so I like to note that the type of response to my posts is reflective of the  true spiritual nature of all of the posters  as well

and I can easily see those who have found the truth, and those who are still seeking for it or have  wrongfully denied it..

 I too now was shocked when I became a real Christian, not a pretend one, how my version of Christianity now differed from so many loudly professing Christians on many issues now as well such as spiritual gifts, helping poor people. But why?
 
(Mark 3:33 KJV)  And he answered them, saying, Who is my mother, or my brethren? 34   And he looked round about on them which sat about him, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren! 35   For whosoever shall do the will of God, the same is my brother, and my sister, and mother.
 
(Mat 25:31 KJV)  When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: 32  And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: 33  And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. 34  Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: 35  For I was an hungered, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: 36  Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. 37  Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungered, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? 38  When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? 39  Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? 40  And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. 41  Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: 42  For I was an hungered, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: 43  I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. 44  Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungered, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? 45  Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. 46  And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal. 
 
And I had to really rightfully conclude that the others were not real Christians, were persons who did not read the whole Bible, they were not practicing the truth, the faith according to the New Testament, the whole Bible too  but they wrongfully these others they now were preaching, practicing the overly false, simplified Gospel  according to them.  They did this  because  they were hirelings, false , false teachers false prophets, false pastors, false elders, false evangelists, false deacons, a false Christian.
 
Gen 31:7 But your father has deceived me and changed my wages ten times, but God did not allow him to hurt me.
 
(Rom 8:28 KJV)  And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
 
In my life I have faced serious illnesses  more than once....

Baiscially initially when my children were born and they were facing serious sickness.. My wife, and I and our church prayed seriuoulsy for them..

and when I was next myself becamse serioulsy ill too.. and I can assure you that in desperation I prayed seriuoulsy as well..
 
 AND I HAVE OFTEN PRAYED FOR OTHER SICK PERSONS NOW TOO.

What initially ALSO appeared as the most tragic demonic events in my own life next, they had  turned  out to be the most blessed event, even prolonging my life.
 
Imagine that I  as an adult in Calgary Alberta was firstly fired from my job because I had refused to cheat, lie, steal on behalf of my firm. Next my sadly unfaithful wife filed for divorce, and she ven stole my personal belongings and my 3 children too, even our house next went into foreclosure and was taken over by the bank, so what can happen worse than that?
 
Well next the pastor of the local church tried to kick me out of the local church cause I could not longer give to him, and he for sure falsely was not willing to give in return.. What next?
 
Well for 2 years the lying, pretending local  bad doctors, hospital  could find anything wrong with me too.. even though I knew for sure there was something wrong with me..
 
So I next moved back to my home town, Montreal to another province, Quebec.
 
Shortly the doctors there confirmed the fact that I need quintuplet heart by pass surgery, and they also next installed a pacer, and a  defliberator as well.. thus  prolonging my life much longer than had I strayed in Calgary Alberta.

You see I was working and living in Calgary Alberta in 1982 and for 2 years I had gone to various doctors, I had undergone various medical tests and the doctors said they could find nothing wrong with me specifically, rather it appears they must have known the truth but refused to do anything, for the Alberta government has a policy that they give medical services priority mainly to people born in Alberta. Had my wife not filed for divorce for sure I would have had been dead next there, and when she filed for divorce, we lost our home as the lawyers had seized it  for their future payments, so next I had no choice but to eventually go back to Montreal to firstly get medical help cause I was in continually stomach  pains. By the blood pressure alone the doctor should have know how seriously I was sick, 165/145.. my wife being a nurse she knew right away.. God even told me I was seriously ill.. and he had refused to allow me to work hard.
 
When I got to Montréal and visited the McGill Hospital, the doctors here said I was ok originally, amused me and put me into a bed for 4 weeks and conducted no medical tests at all.. next finally they decided to discharge me, but someone had to sign off on me and they decided to do one test, the echo gram, the technician doing the test next she start to cry, and I asked her why she was crying, she replied that I was too young to have such a serious heart problem, 1/3 of my heart was dead. The next day the doctor said the McGill Hospital  came and told me that there was nothing they could do for me, I would have to go home and get ready to die. But right then at the same time I heard Jesus say "do not worry Paul, it will all turn  out all right".. so next day the 2 doctors came back and and said they will give me a heart surgery tomorrow, a quintuplet heart by pass. After the heart surgery I was totally normal for 2 weeks but then it seemed to have been inadequate.. the surgery was only partially successful. I was able to walk but I had difficulties in any serious exercise, physical activity.  God told me next he took my wife away cause it was her bad cooking that was killing me, something the dieticians confirmed next too.  He God had now freed me to work on the internet, I have been on the internet actually since computers had first started in the 80's  both as a political lobbyist on behalf of all Canadians,    as a Christian pastor promoting God's truth.
 
I had now also wanted to return to Alberta, because I loved the weather and scenery there, so  as I prayed as to why I could not go back there. God told me I he had provided everything I needed in the city of LaSalle Montreal where I was I was even for my medical care. I shortly had a vision. It was a view of Montreal from above, but on the south side of the Montréal, across the river instead was a huge European looking city. I was told I could not cross the south  river, and I saw from the air above the Montreal General Hospital and I was told I would have to go there next. That week my main doctor called and said I would have to go to the hospital to have a defliberator installed for I have a tendency to die in my sleep. So they implanted the medical device and next it significantly improved my breathing.

I was now also basically limited to biking, since walking any long distance was too difficult for me but eventually next even Biking that  was too hard for me, I could not make it up the hill. So in desperation I prayed and told God that. Just after I had prayed the phone rang and a fellow said he had acquired an electric bike he would like to sell me.  I bought it, and it really solved my biking need. I loved it. I could travel at 30 mph and do about 60 miles before I recharge it, bout 2 a week.

Meanwhile I continue on the net daily for hours, generally my mornings at least, writing my messages, replying to letters. I have been happy, fulfilled  with God the last 15 years too. I have been very visibly active on the net as a Christian, even daily writing Bible devotionals to many pastors, college students too. Gladly  here doing the work of the Lord. Although I liked being a pastor of a home church better in Calgary, I loved the daily home , hospital and political visitations too. So as you see there are no complaints here. God let me serve him  more next  instead of having me die. God had said to me also he had let me live cause I had served him..
 
Is 61:1 THE SPIRIT of the Lord God is upon me, because the Lord has anointed {and} qualified me to preach the Gospel {of} good tidings to the meek, the poor, {and} afflicted; He has sent me to bind up {and} heal the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the [physical and spiritual] captives and the opening of the prison {and} of the eyes to those who are bound,  Is 61:2 To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord [the year of His favor] and the day of vengeance of our God, to comfort all who mourn, Is 61:3 To grant [consolation and joy] to those who mourn in Zion--to give them an ornament (a garland or diadem) of beauty instead of ashes, the oil of joy instead of mourning, the garment [expressive] of praise instead of a heavy, burdened, {and} failing spirit--that they may be called oaks of righteousness [lofty, strong, and magnificent, distinguished for uprightness, justice, and right standing with God], the planting of the Lord, that He may be glorified. Is 61:4 And they shall rebuild the ancient ruins; they shall raise up the former desolations and renew the ruined cities, the devastations of many generations.
 
Is 61:10 I will greatly rejoice in the Lord, my soul will exult in my God; for He has clothed me with the garments of salvation, He has covered me with the robe of righteousness, as a bridegroom decks himself with a garland, and as a bride adorns herself with her jewels. Is 61:11 For as [surely as] the earth brings forth its shoots, and as a garden causes what is sown in it to spring forth, so [surely] the Lord God will cause rightness {and} justice and praise to spring forth before all the nations [through the self-fulfilling power of His word].
  
Is 62:11 Behold, the Lord has proclaimed to the end of the earth: Say to the Daughter of Zion, Behold, your salvation comes [in the person of the Lord]; behold, His reward is with Him, and His work {and} recompense before Him. Is 62:12 And they shall call them the Holy People, the Redeemed of the Lord; and you shall be called Sought Out, a City Not Forsaken.

God through Jesus Christ has promised to deliver us from all of sickness, sadness, sorrows, troubles even today, and we can stand on many such  promises in his Word, the Bible. There is no pit that you fall into that is so deep that Jesus now next cannot still help you out off.

 
Many professing Christian persons still do have concerns such as "Teach me how to pray for healing?" or " I Prayed for healing but nothing happened yet?"
 
It is firstly important to remember that the right of praying for healing in Jesus name by faith in God's word, his written promise to us is the Children's bread only, meaning this right belongs to all real genuine Christians, not to secular or still ungodly persons basically. Secondly if you prayed for healing, and nothing happen first give it some time, secondly pray again till you do next get the healing, even pray to find out why the healing has not happened..
 
Now I know very specifically that I with 2 other church elders had prayed in a specific period for 28 people to be healed, and yet next only half were undeniably healing, but God there at the same time had revealed simultaneously to all three of us the same reasons, obstacles as to why the other persons were still not healed, including their unconfessed major sins,   personal inadequacies that had to be dealt with, and in some of those cases next we prayed again for the same persons and they were healed or delivered from their bondage, sicknesses.
 
If you are a false teacher, a false prophet, and there are much too many of them in the Christian, secular environment, do not basically expect God firstly and rightfully to hear your prayers.. even for healing. You rather need first to  get right with God yourself.

Phil 4:4 KJV) Rejoice in the Lord always: and again I say, Rejoice.

More Wine does not prevent Cancers, nor does being a drunk, or smoking, doing bad drugs prolong ones health too.. Only Jesus does..

I can honestly say that the worse things that had happened to me in my own life next had turned out to be the best thing for me.. they  caused me to grow spiritually and to grow closer to the Lord too, and we know that all things work for the good for those who love God..
 
(2 Cor 1:3 KJV)  Blessed be God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies, and the God of all comfort;
 
(2 Cor 1:4 KJV)  Who comforteth us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort them which are in any trouble, by the comfort wherewith we ourselves are comforted of God.
 
(2 Cor 1:5 KJV)  For as the sufferings of Christ abound in us, so our consolation also aboundeth by Christ.
 
(2 Cor 1:6 KJV)  And whether we be afflicted, it is for your consolation and salvation, which is effectual in the enduring of the same sufferings which we also suffer: or whether we be comforted, it is for your consolation and salvation.
 
(2 Cor 1:7 KJV)  And our hope of you is stedfast, knowing, that as ye are partakers of the sufferings, so shall ye be also of the consolation.
 
 http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/26/how-to-pray-for-healing/

God still opposes all Churches, leader's sins, and their human rights abuses, and the best way to deal with it is to shout it from the housetops, call the police.. expose it to all.. I do.
 
>>And there are lots of other charities that help saints overseas. Groups like the Salvation Army have a presence in many nations.
 
Dream on..
 
 I had personally witnessed Salvation army personnel stealing for themselves what the citizens had donated to the poor, and a secretary of the organization next even confirmed it to me.. as I had detailed to major news editors in Canada. We can also know that over 70 percent of the donations tends not to reach the intended persons in most organizations, cause the overheads, corruptions, even for the empire building as well are much too high..
 
 >>Judas robbed from the treasury, but was it wrong for people to give Jesus and His disciples a donation? Should we all stop giving to groups that are making some effort to help because the targets of the donations only receive 30%?  Keep working to expose the corruption, we certainly want the crooks in those groups tossed out. But once you have a better group in place, be sure to let us know.
 
As far as a good system to give to the poor.. it is already there in the book of acts.. it is giving to the poor through your local church.. even the old testament tithe insisted that 1/7 of the tithe be given to the local poor people.  We all do have a responsibility to give firstly to the poor in our own church, neighborhood through the local church, and that is why the Deacons were set to do this. If the deacons are not doing this.. that is another issue..  and yes still we have a responsibly always still to insure the moneys is not being stolen, even in churches now too.   
          
(Acts 6:1 KJV) And in those days, when the number of the disciples was multiplied, there arose a murmuring of the Grecians against the Hebrews, because their widows were neglected in the daily ministration. 2 Then the twelve called the multitude of the disciples unto them, and said, It is not reason that we should leave the word of God, and serve tables .3   Wherefore, brethren, look ye out among you seven men of honest report, full of the Holy Ghost and wisdom, whom we may appoint over this business.
 
(Acts 2:45 KJV) And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need. (Acts 4:35 KJV) And laid them down at the apostles’ feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.
Galatians 6:10 (New American Standard Bible) 10 So then, while we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, and especially to those who are of the household of the faith.
 
Apostle Paul beyond a shadow of doubt a real Christian, who took all precautions not to give any offence, was honest, trustworthy too.. was definitely also working in helping the poor people in Rome, elsewhere, as part as his Christian Duties too now, so should all Pastors thus now too!
 
Rev George Mueller is a classical example of a faith ministry helping poor persons., and this pastor did not live high on the hog in the process too, he was not empire building, or helping himself. Mother Theresa and many others now as well.
 
In fact the whole New testament Christian church was helping the Poor Christian persons firstly not just apostle Paul, for they will know we are Christians by how we love one another, not our mere words still too– he Paul was just a delivery boy on behalf of the Christian Church, And all pastors need to help the poor people in their church, all churches too.. Jesus Christ cared for the poor people! yes he fed them, healed them, delivered them too.
and all very much unlike these days where the evangelical leaders live high on the hog, and their churches especially seems to be too self centered, have falsely abdicated their duties, roles falsely in helping the poor people.. but seem too readily even these days to steal the tithe..
 
Undeniably 1/7 of the tithe was to be given directly to the local poor people, can any local evangelical, catholic church , even the cult Mormon prove in fact that they do this? The tithe itself also could not be used for paying of mortgages, nor can any person owning any tangible property- real estate , even supposedly poor person or a Christian worker received any portion of the tithe now as well… just as these same principles are applied to persons receiving social welfare from the governments too.
 
The priests themselves in the book of Malachi themselves now by God were rightfully accused of abusing, or stealing God’s tithes , and that happens too often theses days now still in the churches. I had many an evangelical pastor tell me they would kick me out of their church if I preached any of this above in their church too. I have even seen evangelical pastors often steal directly myself and reported it too.
 
Yes my main point was the Godly, Biblical pattern for giving to the poor people set forth for giving to the poor people was definitely through the church still, if the LOCAL church is not doing it, it is time to get the LOCAL church in order.
 
and I for certainly and now on many, many occasions I do not trust rightfully the Salvation Army to do this, especially since they too often clearly have departed from the faith, and employed ungodly believers to do their work too often too. Nor even the Christian Missionary Alliance church and rightfully as well and I have detailed on my sites why too.
 
I had also noted in the past from a study of events band history that the most lasting efforts, contributions were those that involved the Church directly… which now includes shelters, hospital and university too and worldwide. Famous university, hospitals were originally started by Christian organizations, churches, in Canada and the US now too, both Catholic and protestant ones too.       

And where local churches who don’t have the infrastructure to help poor people in their church should establish one.. and yes they can send money to another church they can really trust to do this too in another country to help the poor people there.. it is an still unacceptable sin how much too often now the donations are too often abused. We as Christians have to be diligent to see next also how the money is obeying spent, not just in donating it.
 
>> In scripture, aid went to the saints according to their need, not location.   
 
this is a distortion of the truth to me.. all poor people need to be helped, locally firstly.
 
(1 Tim 5:8 KJV) But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.
 
(1 Tim 5:9 KJV) Let not a widow be taken into the number under threescore years old, having been the wife of one man, 10  Well reported of for good works; if she have brought up children, if she have lodged strangers, if she have washed the saints’ feet, if she have relieved the afflicted, if she have diligently followed every good work.
 
(Acts 6:3 KJV) Wherefore, brethren, look ye out among you seven men of honest report, full of the Holy Ghost and wisdom, whom we may appoint over this business.
 
I think that we are to take care of the local poor Christian Brethren in our own church first and even also help the unsaved elsewhere next also does not mean we do stop giving firstly to our own family members..but just giving to our own family is not enough..Job also helped everyone he could starting locallyA person’s attiude to the poor and to money shows in reality a lot of what their Christianity is really like too and where are these honest men in the local churches today? they are not all to be like the Apostle Judas. They are to be unlike most of the TV evangelists, big Ministries too, who live high on the hog, drive nice cars, live in expensive mansions and this is never acceptable still to God for sure, I know! for he told me so too!!
 
And hey it was in Alberta, Canada  that I saw, met, witnessed the most crooked pastors, evangelicals, even the Baptist, Alliance, Salvation Army, and i never saw so many crooked bad pastors in one place too.. but next saw them in other cities in Canada now too.. I saw pastors steal directly in Calgary too, and often.
 
I was in a super great Church once, even though the Pastors were stealing, abusing the funds, committing adultery, counseling divorce,  gossiping, slandering, lying,  and so forth. The Holy Spirit due to the prayers of some of the faithful persons there  was really moving in their services, and many people were getting saved, healed and delivered, and the praise and worship services were really great. God specifically had told me to go to this church as well, but he had put a condition on it, he said do not talk with, communicate, fellowship  with any of the pastors. I had done some great personal counseling in that Church as well.. met some great and also bad people.  But eventually  one day next came when I had to talk to the same pastors, and even to tell them that God was going to get rid of them, to next deal with them negatively and God did! God next broke down this large Calgary church because it had grown big in size and had become perverse. All of the pastors were next removed from it as well.
 
It has always been shocking to me when someone had personally said to me the pastor has abused me.. he was unkind, unloving, he even lied.. for that is the last place I have expected to find an abusive persons, a pastor of a Church.
 
I was really surprised that most evangelical, Pentecostal  pastors in Alberta too are control freaks too.. who even meddle into homes now too.. other person’s  lives..
 
THE MAN KING OF THE HOUSE, THE WOMAN HIS DUTIFUL SUBJECT. The man is the king of the  household, and the wife is only the prime minister. There is no confusion or overlapping of authority. The will of the husband is law. He has the  only   place of honor . The arrangements of the house, the company entertained, and the service employed, all have respect to his wishes and to his convenience. The wife conducts the affairs of state for the king. She has her household and, more than  her personal allowance, and she renders a strict account of stewardship.   The wife’s personal expenditures are less, much less than the husband’s. The will of the husband is the  undisputed law; as to the wife her person, her property, her children under his sole control even to the present time are the rights secured to the husband under present English law. Like it or not but these laws were based on the Bible, which states   (Eph 5:23 KJV) ” For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body”
 
and most Evangelical pastors DO need to recognize, preach  AND PRACTICE this still too.
 
Beware always of men and women, bullies, tormentors, control freaks,  persons, civil and public servants,  politicians, pastors, leaders, elders, who falsely do, will try to enslave you, oppress you, exploit you even while they claim they are proclaiming the truth, democracy, trying to help you, etc.,

Is 51:23 ..your tormentors {and} oppressors, those who said to you, Bow down, that we may ride {or} tread over you; and you have made your back like the ground and like the street for them to pass over.
 
It has been also my experience that when you stand up for God, his truths, Satan immediate will oppose it..  (Mat 16:23 KJV)  But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men. 24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.  
 
(Micah 3:6 KJV)  Therefore night shall be unto you, that ye shall not have a vision; and it shall be dark unto you, that ye shall not divine; and the sun shall go down over the prophets, and the day shall be dark over them. 7  Then shall the seers be ashamed, and the diviners confounded: yea, they shall all cover their lips; for there is no answer of God. 8 But truly I am full of power by the spirit of the LORD, and of judgment, and of might, to declare unto Jacob his transgression, and to Israel his sin.  
 
Bashing Pentecostals Christians, evangelists,  on the net even by even the  fundamentals is a popular sport in the Roman coliseum it seems these days too
 
James 1:19-25  So then, my beloved brethren, let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath; for the wrath of man does not produce the righteousness of God. Therefore lay aside all filthiness and overflow of wickedness, and receive with meekness the implanted word, which is able to save your souls. But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves. For if anyone is a hearer of the word and not a doer, he is like a man observing his natural face in a mirror; for he observes himself, goes away, and immediately forgets what kind of man he was. But he who looks into the perfect law of liberty and continues in it, and is not a forgetful hearer but a doer of the work, this one will be blessed in what he does.
 
Eph 4:26 KJV)  Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath:
 
(Eph 4:27 KJV)  Neither give place to the devil.
 
(Eph 4:28 KJV)  Let him that stole steal no more: but rather let him labour, working with his hands the thing which is good, that he may have to give to him that needeth.
 
(Eph 4:29 KJV)  Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers.
 
(Eph 4:30 KJV)  And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
 
(Eph 4:31 KJV)  Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice:
 
(Eph 4:32 KJV)  And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.
 
(Eph 5:1 KJV)  Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children;
 
 Some people lie and say anger is a sin, but even God gets angry at sin, ignorance . abuse, injustice and a lot more..
 
(John 15:19 KJV) If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
 
(John 15:23 KJV) He that hateth me hateth my Father also.
 
(1 John 2:9 KJV) He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now.
 
(1 John 2:11 KJV) But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.
 
(1 John 3:15 KJV) Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.
 
(1 John 4:20 KJV) If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?
 
Too many sinful. spoiled  persons clearly have a false concept of God,  that they also falsely try to teach to others too, where God is a good guy, the devil is the bad guy, and in their religion God does not punish anyone for their sin. Now  this false theological ostrich concept of God is PERSONALLY mostly held clearly  to deny facing the possibility of the existence of the negative consequences  for one's personal sins, to AVOID facing up to, or immediately dealing with them, admitting them. Had they read the Bible they would have seen how God still punishes all persons for their still unrepentant sins.
 
Jer 46:28  But I will chasten {and} correct you in just measure, and I will not hold you guiltless by any means {or} leave you unpunished.
 
Jer 47:6 O you sword of the Lord, how long will it be before you are quiet?
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Jer 47:7 How can it [the sword of the Lord] be quiet when the Lord has given it an assignment to discharge?
 
(Micah 3:8 KJV)  But truly I am full of power by the spirit of the LORD, and of judgment, and of might, to declare unto Jacob his transgression, and to Israel his sin.
 
(Micah 3:11 KJV)  The heads thereof judge for reward, and the priests thereof teach for hire, and the prophets thereof divine for money: yet will they lean upon the LORD, and say, Is not the LORD among us? none evil can come upon us.
 
(Prov 27:5 KJV)  Open rebuke is better than secret love.
 
(Rev 3:19 KJV)  As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.
 
 Good verses we all need to remember  often
 
Sadly criticism of relgion, relgious practise in our world is often based on personal views, cultural preferences and hidden agendas, etc..  nmany people who are so called experts on relgion.. relgious practises they have  never experiecned firsthand are often absurd in their comments now  still too.
                   
Some people like to give it to others but next wrongfully cry, wrongfully do complain when they get it back.. 
 
The truth of what I have experienced  the last 3 decades on the net and in many in churches now as well.. the truth that any  bad Conservative is not any better than a bad Liberal.. and professing Conservatives, professing Christians,  evangelical pastors included  who  themselves now wrongfully are too often now just as ungodly human right violators as any of the ungodly, secular  persons too. They also should first Judge themselves before they judge the others, Christians too like to judge others but not themselves.
 
Often I have noted, experienced on the web even that even the professing Christians themselves now not just the preacher supposedly  are abusive, do try to dominate, do disrespect others, and falsely censure others, lie about and slander them as well. It is always still a personal choice that has nothing to do with their persons personal political or religious beliefs, experiences now too.
 
Too many wolves in sheep clothing in the churches today We live in an epidemic of adultery fornication divorce and abortion in the church. – the reason we live in such an epidemic in the church is that Christians of every stripe. Evangelicals, Fundamentalists, Pentecostals, and Charismatic, have no foundation of the Holy Spirit  in their life. Most believers that I have met have never once read the bible cover to cover. They have come to believe that if they mumble a few words about accepting Christ in their heart, that it is now all good, that they have passed from death unto life, and so they do not have to worry anymore about such mundane things as their having to obey the Words and Commandments of Jesus Christ and the Apostles.  Nothing could be father from the truth, disobedience and rebellion no matter where when or what you may have mumbled at some point of your life – brings forth eternal death in your soul.   (Mat 7:13 KJV)  Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:14  Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. 15  
 
Luke 16:19-25 There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day: 20And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores, 21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man’s table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. 22And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham’s bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; 23And in hell he (The rich man) lifted up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. 24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame. 25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.
 
What was the rich man’s sin?  Jesus said he was evil so that was why he was in Hell? or Did Christ say he was unjust? or what did Jesus really say was his sin?    Jesus said he was wealthy and ate sumptuously every day. –  That was his sin, that was his defilement, and that cost him his soul.
 
Look back now at Luke chapter 6:  “But woe unto you that are rich! for ye have received your consolation. 25 Woe unto you that are full! for ye shall hunger. Woe unto you that laugh now! for ye shall mourn and weep.” 
           
What did Lazarus do to earn a spot in Abraham’s bosom? Did Christ say he was righteous? Did Christ say he prayed morning noon and night? No Jesus said he was a beggar that laid at the gates of the rich man desiring the crumbs that fell from his table and the dogs licked the man’s sores. Look again at Luke chapter 6: Blessed be ye poor: for yours is the kingdom of God. 21Blessed are ye that hunger now: for ye shall be filled. Blessed are ye that weep now: for ye shall laugh.
 
Revelation 3:14-16 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God; I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.
 
Most Christians still do not know God, Jesus Christ, Holy Spirit, and the  Bible too.. less than 5 percent of Christians read their Bible 5 minutes a  day, so they talk about things they really do not know, have not  experienced, and the Holy Ghost especially.. undeniably too but they love to judge the others. Too Many Christians are doing their own thing, trying to live a life without  Jesus, without even taking to him now often too.. Jesus himself hath said  without me you can do nothing.. nothing!!! we all should stop hero worshipping mere men and start rather to worshipping God alone.
 
My real often reality is that even most so called Christians today when the  see a miracle, they try to deny it, explain it away.. but they did that also in Jesus time now too.. so what else is new?
 
If you read the Book of acts then you did notice that the emphasis on the  Holy Spirit, and distributing money, food to the local poor people was part  of the reason the churches next were so popular and growing. While in  contrast today many Churches. pastors, members, adherents, are selfish  cheapskates. True pastors, elders, ministers would firstly daily read their Bible for one  hour and pray daily for others. And  what people need firstly is getting the book of acts Pentecostal  experiences.. and they will naturally next care for the poor people, act  like real anointed Christians.
 
I admit there are much too many crooked pastors around these days for my liking, and  in my own witness, experiences the last 4 decades too.. but there seems much too many critics on the net.. who clearly are violating God’s instruction to try to talk to a brother humbly, personally about their sins, sins.. before shouting it from the housetops.. wrongfully mostly this is not been ing even done as we can all see on the net daily too.
 
I am a pastor, I have been to latter day Pentecostal churches, I have encountered good and bad pastors in many denominations including Alliance, Baptist, Pentecostal ones.. but firstly I tend to rightfully speak to a pastor face to face, get to know firsthand what he is like before I am wise enough to publically condemn, judge him
 
But if you have not been baptized with the Holy Spirit, and clearly admit you do not speak in tongues, and that you do not have the gift of healing, how can you really judge the others by comparisons, even by the discerning gift of the Holy Spirit..
 
Mind you Jesus said by their fruits you tell what they are like.. which include their love, joy, peace, gentleness, meekness, patience’s, faith.. since gifts operating in faith, the amount you have or the lack thereof..
 
(Rom 8:7 KJV)  Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
(1 Cor 3:1 KJV)  And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.
(1 Cor 3:3 KJV)  For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?
(1 Cor 3:4 KJV)  For while one saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?
 
A true Christian believers set of beliefs, doctrines is based on what the  Holy Spirit himself who also is God himself now teaches you and me and his  teachings they  will not contradict the Bible..  and it is not rather based  solely on what an angel or other men may teach us too. But of course if  any others because they  really still do not know God  and/or  because they are doing “your own thing”, following their own will,  and/or have not died to Jesus Christ, they  thus are not open to the Holy  Spirit himself to talk  with them thus they really should find out why too!  otherwise  they  will mostly allow the false men, false angels to deceive  themselves instead.. So how are they  dealing with Jesus Christ firstly.. is he personally  rightfully their  Lord, Savior, or are they  just playing a religious game? so I like to note that the type of response to my posts is also still reflective of the  true spiritual nature of all of the posters as well and I can easily see those who have found the truth, and those who are still  seeking for it or have wrongfully denied it..
 
Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses, Dispensationalists  too, and many others they  also are not Christians-  certainly thus not anointed by the Holy Sprit,    and not by along shot.. for they had missed out as to who Jesus Christ the Messiah was, and not just who who the Holy Spirit is.. so how can they even be anointed ones..  Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses, Dispensationalists  are a  religion yes, but the true religion? certainly not.
 
Human reason logic, is corrupt and limited.. learning how to now hear God talking to you firstly is what everyone should learn..  I have absolutely no doubt the devil talks to me, but so do God, the Holy sprit and Jesus separately as well too.. for decades now too.
 
(Gal 6:7 KJV)  Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. 8  For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
  
Actually the degree of negative personal consequences also are determined as to how quickly you on your own had repented of your major sins, or did Gold almost have to force you into confession of your sins as he did to King David  And many People would know that already too had they actually read the Bible as they lying often claim they do too.
 The world is seeking scientists.  The Church is seeking scholars.  But God is seeking his true prophets.
 
Where is the power of God that we see in the Prophets, in Christ and in the Apostles? And  what  are we  doing  that is now different in the Church  from that  I read of in the book of Acts in the Bible?   
 
Follow the Anointing  Luke 4:14 “And Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit into Galilee: and there went out a fame of him through all the region round about.” Over the years many have questioned the lack of power in their Baptism of the Holy Spirit as opposed to what they read in Scripture and the New Testament and here we have the answer that has been in plain sight for all to see all along and in quite concrete terms –
  
Revelation 3:17 Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked:
 
 Then Jesus answering said unto them, Go your way, and tell John what things ye have seen and heard; how that the blind see, the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, to the poor the gospel is preached.

Now I have often already covered topics like this  of true and false Christians, churches many times too on my own sites in detail. 
 
Most people, all people rather are too readily deceived, lied to by the devil and   others. They do not easily recognize, perceive, admit the truths even about themselves and others now as well. Most people still so  take the ostrich approach to dealing with the negative truths, hoping the matters will resolve on their own, but generally next they do not until they are even  escalated.
 
Gen 3:13 And the Lord God said to the woman, What is this you have done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled (cheated, outwitted, and deceived) me, and I ate.
 
Gen 29:25 But in the morning [Jacob saw his wife, and] behold, it was Leah! And he said to Laban, What is this you have done to me? Did I not work for you [all those seven years] for Rachel? Why then have you deceived {and} cheated {and} thrown me down [like this]?
 
Gen 31:7 But your father has deceived me and changed my wages ten times, but God did not allow him to hurt me.
 
Deut 11:16 Take heed to yourselves, lest your [minds and] hearts be deceived and you turn aside and serve other gods and worship them,
 
1 Sam 28:12 And when the woman saw Samuel, she screamed and she said to Saul, Why have you deceived me? For you are Saul!
 
Job 12:16 With Him are might and wisdom; the deceived and the deceiver are His [and in His power].
 
Job 15:31 Let him not deceive himself and trust in vanity (emptiness, falseness, and futility), for these shall be his recompense [for such living].
 
Prov 24:28 Be not a witness against your neighbor without cause, and deceive not with your lips.
 
Prov 26:19 So is the man who deceives his neighbor and then says, Was I not joking?
 
Is 19:13 The princes of Zoan have become fools, and the princes of Memphis are confused {and} deceived; those who are the cornerstones of her tribes have led Egypt astray.
 
Jer 4:10 Then I [Jeremiah] said, Alas, Lord God! Surely You have greatly deceived {and} misled this people and Jerusalem, [for the prophets represented You as] saying [to Your people], You shall have peace, whereas the sword has reached to [their very] life.
 
Jer 14:16 And the people to whom they prophesy shall be cast out in the streets of Jerusalem, victims of famine and sword; and they shall have none to bury them--them, their wives, their sons, and their daughters. For I will pour out their wickedness upon them [and not on their false teachers only, for the people could not have been deceived except by their own consent].
 
Jer 49:16 Your [object of] horror (your idol) has deceived you, and the pride of your heart [has deceived you], O you who dwell in the clefts of the rock [Sela or Petra], who hold {and} occupy the height of the hill. Though you make your nest as high as the eagle's, I will bring you down from there, says the Lord.
 
Lam 1:19 I [Jerusalem] called to my lovers [allies], but they deceived me. My priests and my elders expired in the city while they sought food to save their lives.
 
Obad 1:3 The pride of your heart has deceived you, you dweller in the refuges of the rock [Petra, Edom's capital], whose habitation is high, who says in his heart, Who can bring me down to the ground?
 
Obad 1:7 All the men of your confederacy (your allies) have brought you on your way, even to the border; the men who were at peace with you have deceived you and prevailed against you; they who eat your bread have laid a snare under you. There is no understanding [in Edom, or] of it.
 
>>Amen, Thenonconformer. I think the problem lies in people looking for a specific verse that tells them an exact answer. These are the ones who demand we stay ONLY in context. Doing this is right in many cases, but it is often like looking at one square inch on a vast painting, and thinking they see the whole picture. We see the Trinity by seeing MANY parts of the picture God painted in the Bible.
 
True.
 
PEOPLE ARE LAZY AND WANT AN OVER SIMPLIFIED RELIGION, GOSPEL, BIBLE.. AND 95 PERCENT OF THE CHRISTIANS EVEN NOW  DO NOT READ THE BIBLE FOR THEMSELVES FOR MORE THAN  5 MINUTES A DAY, SO THEY BELIEVE MOSTLY WHAT OTHERS HAD SAID ABOUT THE BIBLE.
 
sad but true.. too many false pastors, false teachers, false cults, false denominations with hidden agenda take advantage of this void and lead the professing Christian sheep astray next, helped by the devil in all of this too undeniably.
 
It has always been shocking to me when someone had personally said to me the pastor has abused me.. he was unkind, unloving, he even lied.. for that is the last place I have expected to find an abusive persons, a pastor of a Church.
 
I was really surprised that most evangelical pastors are control freaks too.. who even meddle into homes now too.. other person's  lives..
 
THE MAN KING OF THE HOUSE, THE WOMAN HIS DUTIFUL SUBJECT. The man is the king of the  household, and the wife is only the prime minister. There is no confusion or overlapping of authority. The will of the husband is law. He has the  only   place of honor . The arrangements of the house, the company entertained, and the service employed, all have respect to his wishes and to his convenience. The wife conducts the affairs of state for the king. She has her household and, more than  her personal allowance, and she renders a strict account of stewardship.   The wife's personal expenditures are less, much less than the husband's. The will of the husband is the  undisputed law; as to the wife her person, her property, her children under his sole control even to the present time are the rights secured to the husband under present English law. Like it or not but these laws were based on the Bible, which states   (Eph 5:23 KJV) " For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body"
 
and most Evangelical pastors DO need to recognize, preach  AND PRACTICE this still to
 
Now what about the deceivers.
 
1 Cor 6:9 Do you not know that the unrighteous {and} the wrongdoers will not inherit {or} have any share in the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived (misled): neither the impure {and} immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor those who participate in homosexuality,
 
1 Cor 15:33 Do not be so deceived {and} misled! Evil companionships (communion, associations) corrupt {and} deprave good manners {and} morals {and} character.
 
Gal 6:7 Do not be deceived {and} deluded {and} misled; God will not allow Himself to be sneered at (scorned, disdained, or mocked by mere pretensions or professions, or by His precepts being set aside.) [He inevitably deludes himself who attempts to delude God.] For whatever a man sows, that {and} that only is what he will reap.
 
2 Tim 3:13 But wicked men and imposters will go on from bad to worse, deceiving {and} leading astray others and being deceived {and} led astray themselves.
 
as for God's true People..
 
Luke 8:23 But as they were sailing, He fell off to sleep. And a whirlwind revolving from below upwards swept down on the lake, and the boat was filling with water, and they were in great danger. Luke 8:24 And the disciples came and woke Him, saying, Master, Master, we are perishing! And He, being thoroughly awakened, censured {and} blamed {and} rebuked the wind and the raging waves; and they ceased, and there came a calm. 25  And He said to them, [Why are you so fearful?] Where is your faith (your trust, your confidence in Me--in My veracity and My integrity)? And they were seized with alarm {and} profound {and} reverent dread, and they marveled, saying to one another, Who then is this, that He commands even wind and sea, and they obey Him?
 
So the other  real question as to whether apostles, prophets, pastor teachers exists today as in the Time of Jesus Christ first needs to be superseded by the question as to whether all true Christians are now also anointed by the Holy Spirit, Anointed, Greek word ,  Christos meaning one who shows evidence of the holy Spirit..  and the answer is yes… all true Christians are evidentiary now also anointed by the Holy Spirit, and if the other people cannot see this you certainly are not a true Christian.
 
(John 15:19 KJV)  If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
 
(John 15:23 KJV)  He that hateth me hateth my Father also.
 
(1 John 2:9 KJV)  He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now.
 
(1 John 2:11 KJV)  But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.
 
(1 John 3:15 KJV)  Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.
 
(1 John 4:20 KJV)  If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?

Ledger " Wednesday, July 23, 2008 at 9:02 a.m.  LAKELAND | Evangelist Todd Bentley, whose unorthodox appearance and methods have attracted worldwide attention, will leave the long-running revival he has led here, it was announced Monday, although the local pastor who brought Bentley to Lakeland vows the revival will continue.

Bentley's last day leading the Florida Outpouring revival will be Aug. 23, said Lynne Breidenbach, revival spokesperson. The enormous white tents on the grounds of Sun n' Fun Fly-in, where the revival has been held since early June, will be taken down after that night's service.

The Florida Outpouring began at Ignited Church of Lakeland on April 2, with Bentley, a 32-year-old Canadian, as a guest evangelist. Bentley was originally scheduled to lead services for a week, but when large crowds began flocking to the church, he agreed to stay on, and the revival has continued every day since then.

Hundreds of thousands of people from across the United States and the world have attended the revival, which outgrew at least four venues before tents were set up at Sun n' Fun. Early on, the services were streamed live over the Internet, and some observers have credited the Internet for the rapid growth of the revival.

During the past several weeks, Bentley occasionally has been absent from the evening services, turning them over to guest evangelists or associates of his evangelistic ministry. He will return to lead the services tonight, but he already has scheduled appearances at revivals in Los Angeles; Louisville, Ky.; and Spokane, Wash., before Aug. 23.

"He's going to be here regularly, just not seven nights a week," Breidenbach said.

After leaving the Florida Outpouring, Bentley will conduct revivals overseas, including in the United Kingdom and Sudan, according to his ministry's Web site.

The Rev. Stephen Strader, pastor of Ignited Church, said Bentley made the decision to relinquish leadership of the revival last week.

"He and I had both been praying about what God wants us to do," Strader said. "There have been all sorts of rumors, but everything is OK. This has nothing to do with anything else."

Ignited Church will continue the revival, holding services every night after Bentley leaves, Strader said. And he is negotiating with other Lakeland churches to host services a few nights a week.

"We're ready to take over. We don't know at this point what venues we'll use," he said. "Most services we'll be able to handle here at Ignited. We do anticipate crowds dropping off after Todd leaves."

But Bentley may put in an occasional appearance. He plans to keep an office in Lakeland, in addition to his Fresh Fire Ministries headquarters in Abbotsford, British Columbia, Breidenbach said.

One of the churches that might participate in ongoing services is Believers Fellowship, at which Jeff Garvin, a Bentley associate, has preached in recent weeks.

"Stephen Strader is really the right man for this," said the Rev. Wayne Friedt, pastor of Believers Fellowship. "He's experienced, he's prepared. They'll still pack out Ignited Church."

Bentley, covered with tattoos and employing antics borrowed from professional wrestling, has proved controversial. The revival has drawn attention for its claims of numerous miraculous healings of serious illnesses. Bentley has also claimed that more than two dozen people have been raised from the dead as a result of prayers offered at the revival.

Even some fellow Pentecostals have questioned whether Bentley's revivals have placed enough emphasis on preaching and calls for repentance. A recent set of guidelines from the Assemblies of God, the largest predominantly white Pentecostal denomination in the United States, seemed to question the Florida Outpouring's emphasis on miracles. Local pastors have expressed skepticism about exaggerated claims.

Recent news reports have been unable to verify any of the claims of healing, although Strader said privacy concerns and laws forbidding the release of medical records have prevented revival officials from releasing complete information about the identities and conditions of people claiming to be healed."

When in contrast you do next read the many next rather distorted  but supposedly Christian, Baptist  versions of the same event  on the net  it  tends to read  and sounds like a soap opera,  biassed, cheap trash,  garbage posts.

Funny eh.. And I thought all Christians were to be good, kind, loving persons.. clearly I was really wrong ehh..

Revivals, the baptism of the Holy spirit, the gifts of the Holy spirit, the Anointing , tongues, Prophets, Apostles, miracle workers, have become unarguably the most overused, overworked, misunderstood, misinterpreted, contentious terms in the non Pentecostal and in the Non Charismatic arenas, and  mainly in the fundamental religious circles even because many of these people, too often false critics  are mostly still serving self, doing their own thing, looking up to mere man and not God.. and man’s help is useless for the most part in understanding spiritual things still too.  They need to grow up spiritually as well.

see also http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/the-spin-game-evangelicals-and-their-leaders-pastors-do-play-now/

Too many sinful. spoiled  persons clearly have a false concept of God,  that they also falsely try to teach to others too, where God is a good guy, the devil is the bad guy, and in their religion God does not punish anyone for their sin. Now  this false theological ostrich concept of God is PERSONALLY mostly held clearly  to deny facing the possibility of the existence of the negative consequences  for one's personal sins, to AVOID facing up to, or immediately dealing with them, admitting them. Had they read the Bible they would have seen how God still punishes all persons for their still unrepentant sins.

>Todd Bentley is of the adversary. The best thing for everyone is for him to fold his tent quickly and leave the scene.Ironically my own twin brother Walter kambulow in total contrast to me holds also that Todd Bentley is totally a false prophet, and while I may agree with some of the reasons for this view, Todd has bad friends, bad associates too, and I also may not agree with the manner he Todd as well does things, even like selling things like books, tapes or candles, or whatever in any Church for since Jesus himself said my house is a house of prayer but you have made it a den of thieves.  

Not only do I mostly not agree with my brother or his views, approach too but I have said myself in love to my own brother that he himself, and yes also some of the others,  the bad pastors are false prophets, after all who better to know him too than his own brother as what he is really like.
  
But I do respect his and your right of free speech, having your own views, and even to be fully heard now as well..
 
It even seems too many professing, evangelical,  Christians still think they can  lie about, slander, abuse others, other Christians on the enter and they can get away with it too, because the net is supposedly unregulated. and because if  their own right of free speech. Free speech is a right you still have to use wisely, But one can be sued for libel on the net still in Canada according to the Queen's courts, and this should applied now in Australia, Great Brian and other commonwealth countries now too. In Canada the RCMP certainly admits to monitoring the net.. While the Internet is in Canada unregulated by the government , the Police  courts still do regulate internet abuse. Of specific interest was the  continual ongoing consistency of deformation of character, personal attacks,  Libel, slander, bullying, the invasion of privacy too.  http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/08/09/libel-on-the-net/
 
CP    VANCOUVER - A B.C. Supreme Court judge has awarded an Australian man  $180,000 for being the brunt of an Internet tirade conducted by a Nanaimo,  B.C., man.  The case involved the thorny question of how to crack down on  the lawlessness of online libel and slander.  Justice Douglas Halfyard  concluded defamatory statements along with the worldwide exposure of Robert  Griffin’s identity had serious and adverse effects on Griffin’s life and  mental health.  In his judgment, Halfyard found Patrick Sullivan responsible  for publishing four years of false and defamatory statements accusing “that  the plaintiff is a stalker, abuser, harasser, criminal, evil, liar, killer,  sexual predator, pervert, pedophile, coward, manipulator and hate monger who  threatens others with death and violence … and deserves to be jailed and  killed.”  Griffin’s lawyer Dan Burnett said most people don’t have the money  or stamina to fight against those kind of relentless Internet accusations.  “He felt it had to stop and the only way it was going to stop was to do what  he did which was commence the action and seek damages and seek an injunction  and essentially stand up to the bully.”  Burnett said the court award and  subsequent injunction stopping Sullivan from writing anything more about his  client is a warning to other Internet users.  “It illustrates that there is  a line, that when crossed, puts you into court and is a breach of the law.”  The whole situation started with postings on the Internet suicide website  ASH, in which participants discuss suicide and depression.  Griffin became  embroiled in a vicious dispute with several of the members of ASH, including  Sullivan.  The situation escalated when Sullivan published personal  information, such as Griffin’s age, his real name and the fact he lived in  Sydney, Australia. Griffin had been using the name Magnus Pym.  “I have  found that the defendant was, in many instances, indifferent to the truth of  the statements he was making,” Halfyard wrote of Sullivan.  “That is malice  and that is an aggravating factor.”  Included in the $180,000 award is  $50,000 for aggravated damages because Halfyard said the facts “demonstrate  that the defendant was motivated by an unjustifiable intention to injure the  plaintiff.”  Griffin has also been awarded $25,000 for breach of his privacy   and almost $5,000 for expenses which included psychological treatment and  counselling, and payment for interpreting services required to investigate postings on the Internet in Russia.  Sullivan, who acted as his own lawyer,  claimed some of the accusations were true, he raised the defence of fair  comment and also denied making some of the statements.  Sullivan could not  be reached for comment.  Halfyard didn’t agree with the arguments.  “The  defendant failed to prove that any of his many other defamatory statements  about the plaintiff were true. The defence of justification fails.”  Burnett  said the sweeping injunction is especially significant because it forces  Sullivan to stop referring in any way to Griffin and to remove all of his  ranting from the Internet.  “That’s in an Internet world where we think of  things going up and being irretrievable. If you’re the person putting it up  and you have the means to take it down the court might order you to do  that.”  http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/080717/national/internet_defamation
 
Canada's  Supreme Court throws out libel case against outspoken B.C. talk show host   VANCOUVER — The country's top court has absolved former Vancouver radio personality Rafe Mair of defamation for a commentary.   The Supreme Court of Canada decision in the defamation suit also broadened a key defence often used by journalists to ward off libel actions. In a 9-0 judgment Friday, the Supreme Court of Canada ruled that Mair was engaging in fair comment in the 1999 radio editorial that was critical of Kari Simpson, a high-profile player in a campaign opposing the use of teaching materials about gay lifestyles in local schools. In the course of the editorial, the controversial former radio commentator made references to the Klan, Hitler and skinheads, although he claimed he wasn't saying that Simpson actually advocated violence against gays. The judge went on, however, to say that Mair wasn't liable for damages because he held an honest belief in the views he expressed - one of the traditional elements in the legal defence long known as fair comment. The Supreme Court, in Friday's judgment   went on to rewrite the legal test for such a defence.  There was no proof that Mair's dominant motive was personal malice,   and thus "his expression of opinion, however, exaggerated, was protected by the law. "We live in a free country where people have as much right to express outrageous and ridiculous opinions as moderate ones." A key component of the fair comment defence has long been that the person making the comment must sincerely believe in it. In the course of the ruling, however, the high court modified that test. Commentary must still have a factual basis, be made without malice and be in the public interest, said Binnie. But the test of honest belief is not whether the specific person holding the opinion believed it. The yardstick is whether any person might honestly hold the view based on the facts at issue. Binnie acknowledged that is "not a high threshold" for any defendant to met. But neither is it appropriate to rule out "a piece of devil's advocacy" in any debate on a matter of public importance.  Mair, who no longer works at the station, said he's glad they took the case to the high court. "This could be a enormous benefit to the journalism industry and therefore, to the people that read and watch it," Mair said in Vancouver. http://canadianpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5jdP5CRF6hm0H_fuYFL_m6d_jI7GQ

Too many people  still do believe in their own sole right of free speech still but they  do next try to deny these same right of others by even threatening to sue them for libel, slander.. sound Familiar Mr Stephen Harper PM of Canada? or Bell Sympatico? or the Toronto Airport Fellowship Church pastors? Benny Hynn? etc.,'

The pastors of the Toronto airport fellowship Church and many other pastors, Christians groups on the net  had asked me in writing not to write to them, and what they can preach about the sins of others but I can’t do that to them? What hypocrisy on their parts now still too.  Even in the churches, evangelical pastoral sections there are much too many really bad unacceptable apples still out there. Too often now our personal rights in this country are now slowly being forcibly demanded to ne sidetracked to accommodate others wishes … Imagine what Canada would be like if any of the church pastors, government forcibly told the citizens, the columnists, editors, commentators what they could and could not publish. Imagine if we had something like a Ministry of Truth, a Ministry of the Media, a Ministry of Thought. If that doesn’t scare you then you rightfully  scare me. These bullying groups appear to be using any angle within the law, courts,  or their influence to try and become our ’superiors’ in some way. It’s about time that truths that are unpalatable to certain sections of our society be allowed to be expressed. We live in a free country, with the right to freedom of expression and speech. Telling the facts does not constitute a ‘hate’ crime now as well. Only those people who want to curtail or own freedoms while they use theirs  would call this a hate crime. If these various groups or people cannot tolerate anyone’s free speech, or debate, why in the world are they living in the west?  If you don’t like the freedoms that are enjoyed by ALL citizens here, then go live in a country where theirs and your freedom  now is denied.  Without freedom of speech, and the freedom of the press we can no longer claim to be a democratic country. No one has the right to stifle the free dispensing of valuable information. Not even Evangelical pastors.  We must all be be vigilant against any attempts of demonic enslavement of us and the  false hindrances of our own rights.  “Those that try to silence honest, open, and free speech are a danger to this country. I hold that to be true. “
                 
Now in Canada even  I am very used to people the much too many Bullies who  try to falsely dominate you, and these bullies go overboard in their reactions when you expose the truth about them and others  especially when their pet idols, or careers are threatened.  Me I am still rightfully actively resistant  to all of the  abusers, bullies, liars, even to the Church, GOVERNMENTAL, CORPORATE, POLICE  oppressions still too. Even those persons who falsely try to send lawyers or the police to my home to harass me, to try to intimidate me, to shut me up. I clearly do believe in the right of everyone to speak, to speak out as well,  and to be equally heard by all, so we can all judge what has been said if it is appropriate and we can next corresponding act upon it, even in the church, in the government, on the Internet now too. Clearly some people falsely DO DISALLOW THIS RIGHT... the bad persons especially as even I know this for sure. They respond with a personal attack, inquisition, censorship, lies, slanders, diversions, distortions, instead of facing, dealing with the facts, truths being presented. Confirming to many what they still are really like, immoral, abusive bullies.

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Mind you the same radio station did not like all the bad publicity they got and the radio personality next lost his job anyway.

Anyway all Christians are governed by higher laws even that of showing  love to others, meekness too, humility and purity too... not just whether they can be sued for libel, slander..

Now too often I myself also do not agree with the comments,  free speech, but I merely  tend to disregard it it next..

but what I do rightfully oppose still any and all free speech  especially on the so called Christian Churches Internet sites, that is   lying, slanderous, insulting, abusive, bullying, bashing.. such as the false bash of Pentecostals by the Brethren, Baptists, Reformed, etc., haters. Or the supposedly evangelical Baptist pastor who had said in the pulpit that he could not understand what Hitler did that was so bad, I helped to fire him , he now sells life insurance instead..

( I heard a Muslim recently say the same thing to me, and so I asked him what he thought next if I will post a cartoon with the picture of his so called prophet saying the same thing.. he next quickly got red and objected to it..)

and even here now we all do still have 2 alternatives.. we can post our rebuttal, objections on their Internet site our ours

or next even take the matter  further to the news media, or  before the provincial Human Right Commissions, and others too..

not all justice is handled in the courts of Law or by a lawsuit.


 Do see also
 
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/the-spin-game-evangelicals-and-their-leaders-pastors-do-play-now/
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/08/07/healing-evangelist-todd-bentley-to-fold-his-lakeland-tent/
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/08/09/does-the-rcmp-monitor-download-logs/
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/06/27/libel/
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/18/libel-2/
http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/07/14/changing-yourself-first-positively/
http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/07/03/verbal-abuse-is-always-unacceptable-too/
http://thefocusonthefamily.wordpress.com/2008/07/17/the-too-common-abusive-silent-treatment/
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/18/libel-2/
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/06/27/libel/
 http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/07/control-freaks/
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/06/15/bullies-free-speech/
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/21/the-pretender-imposter-wolf-in-sheep-clothing/
http://thenonconformer.wordpress.com/2008/07/21/hidden-agendas/
http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/06/23/another-bully/
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/12/bad-pastors-bad-deacons-bad-elders-bad-church/
 http://postedat.wordpress.com/2008/07/25/woe-to-the-shepherds/
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/16/just-by-me-merely-observing/
 http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/06/21/amazing/
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/06/21/equality/
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/03/christians-are-supposedly-to-be-different/
http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/07/02/unchristian/     

I am also fascinated as to how I can make the same post and get contrasting different responses to it..

(Eph 4:32 KJV)  And be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ's sake hath forgiven you.

 I have no hidden agendas, I am not trying to get you to buy anything, I offer everything free, absolutely no money is asked for. There there is no church to join now as well, I merely try to tell the whole honest truth, positive and negative ones, even about politics, religion or what ever.