First I rightfully still do not endorse any Christians adds, anyone, any person, any organization, any Church now trying to make any money from the gospel, or begging, asking for money or even any of the adds here. I also do not endorse any of Bibles, books, tapes listed here for sale too. Jesus said as we have freely received so we are freely to give. Hirelings in their greed and visible lack of faith don't do that. I do believe we should have the faith for God to supply what anyone needs freely to anyone who needs it.
(Eph 5:32 KJV) This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church."I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed." (Galatians 1:6-8)(1 John 4:20 KJV) If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?
(1 John 4:21 KJV) And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also.(1 John 5:1 KJV) Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him. 2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
"But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel; And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy: And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke: The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come: And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved." --Acts 2:16-21.
The term, "the last days," is often (even deliberately) misused these days by even many Christians. The last days refer the the Church, not to the establishment of the Nation of Israel.The Bible is not a History book of the nation of Israel.. The whole Bible is firstly a book about the salvation of all man kind, both Jew and gentile through Jesus Christ , and THUS NOW about the Church, the only body of Christ, of God.If we need help to understand the Bible we can, and should ask Jesus still to show us.. I do and often!
(Acts 15:16 KJV) After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up: 17 That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things. 18 Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world.This last verse dealing with rebuilding of the tabernacle of David , which includes the manner in which David personnaly worshipped God as well, again clearly contradicts the too often false dispensational teaching too. For the this rebuilding of the tabernacle of David is the rebuilding of Christ's Church and it is not rather the nation of Israel. David himself had looked forward to Christ, the only true Messiah and to His coming, o the same Jesus who now is in the Church.It is also clearly promised by God in his Word that the spirit of truth shall guide us into all truth. `John 16:13`
As supposedly genuine seekers, inquirers, we have two methods of Bible study open to us.
One is to seek among all the interpretations, views suggested by the various men, sects of the church, and to take from each that element which we might consider truth and compare it to the truth in God's word-- a continual task.
But if our judgment were warped and twisted, or our prejudices bent in any direction here difficulties may still prevent our correct selection, and we might still continue choose the error and reject the truth.
The other method is to first divest our minds of all prejudice, and to remember "that none can know more about the plans of God than he has revealed by his Word, and that His words are given to the meek and lowly of heart; and, as such, earnestly and sincerely seeking its guidance and instruction only, we shall led thus led by its great Author," the Holy Spirit, be guided to an understanding of all truth, the Bible as.
It is still Ironic that even many people who make such a rightful proposal they first do read, and do listen to the lies of others, mere men and not what the Bible, God says. They can also make a wrong idol of the written word even over God himself and wrongfully say that God cannot personally speak to us. lead us outside of his words in the Bible. God will not contradict his written word but he can still speak to us by his real voice now too.
The Spirit of God, was given to guide the Church into truth, will do need to take of the things written but also to have Him still show them unto us; and beyond what is written we need Him still, for it is the Holy Spirit that makes the Holy Scriptures wise unto salvation, through faith which is in Christ Jesus. `2 Tim. 3:15`
It is evident that though Jesus promised that the Church should be guided into all truth, but some would lie to us and say that it is to be always gradual unfolding, a gradual surrender to Christ as Lord. Was this really true of Apostle Paul's conversion? No Not at all.
(Gal 1:11 KJV) But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
The church today is full of errors, confusions cause it looks still to mere men to lead them and not to God by his Holy Spirit .(Eph 3:5 KJV) Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;The statement "that none can know more about the plans of God than he has revealed by his Word" is still blatant lies FOR it falsely implies that God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit do not talk to His people today.. even though Jesus still said (John 10:27 KJV) My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:.. and this clearly was not just the word of God in the Bible alone.. for in (Heb 13:8 KJV) Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever... as the prophet of God he still speaks to his servants... but It is ironic that these same clearly inconsistent persons who wrongfully try to uphold their own defined fixed dispensational time tables do even in a direct contrast still claim to believe in a progressive timetable, revelation from God, for it seems they do want to have it both ways.. even as long as it is suitable to what they want to hear too? Funny how some people try to wrongfully tell God what He can and cannot.. It actually is the other way!(Hag 1:3 KJV) Then came the word of the LORD by Haggai the prophet, saying,4 Is it time for you, O ye, to dwell in your ceiled houses, and this house lie waste? 5 Now therefore thus saith the LORD of hosts; Consider your ways. 6 Ye have sown much, and bring in little; ye eat, but ye have not enough; ye drink, but ye are not filled with drink; ye clothe you, but there is none warm; and he that earneth wages earneth wages to put it into a bag with holes. 7 Thus saith the LORD of hosts; Consider your ways. 8 Go up to the mountain, and bring wood, and build the house; and I will take pleasure in it, and I will be glorified, saith the LORD. 9 Ye looked for much, and, lo, it came to little; and when ye brought it home, I did blow upon it. Why? saith the LORD of hosts. Because of mine house that is waste, and ye run every man unto his own house. 10 Therefore the heaven over you is stayed from dew, and the earth is stayed from her fruit. 11 And I called for a drought upon the land, and upon the mountains, and upon the corn, and upon the new wine, and upon the oil, and upon that which the ground bringeth forth, and upon men, and upon cattle, and upon all the labour of the hands.(2 Ki 17:13 KJV) Yet the LORD testified against Israel, and against Judah, by all the prophets, and by all the seers, saying, Turn ye from your evil ways, and keep my commandments and my statutes, according to all the law which I commanded your fathers, and which I sent to you by my servants the prophets. 14 Notwithstanding they would not hear, but hardened their necks, like to the neck of their fathers, that did not believe in the LORD their God.(Neh 9:30 KJV) Yet many years didst thou forbear them, and testifiedst against them by thy spirit in thy prophets: yet would they not give ear: therefore gavest thou them into the hand of the people of the lands.(Jer 5:31 KJV) The prophets prophesy falsely, and the priests bear rule by their means; and my people love to have it so: and what will ye do in the end thereof?(Jer 14:15 KJV) Therefore thus saith the LORD concerning the prophets that prophesy in my name, and I sent them not, yet they say, Sword and famine shall not be in this land; By sword and famine shall those prophets be consumed.(Hosea 12:10 KJV) I have also spoken by the prophets, and I have multiplied visions, and used similitudes, by the ministry of the prophets.(Zec 7:12 KJV) Yea, they made their hearts as an adamant stone, lest they should hear the law, and the words which the LORD of hosts hath sent in his spirit by the former prophets: therefore came a great wrath from the LORD of hosts.and not much it seems has changed in many churches even today..(Num 11:29 KJV) And Moses said unto him, Enviest thou for my sake? would God that all the LORD'S people were prophets, and that the LORD would put his spirit upon them!(2 Chr 36:16 KJV) But they mocked the messengers of God, and despised his words, and misused his prophets, until the wrath of the LORD arose against his people, till there was no remedy.(Luke 11:49 KJV) Therefore also said the wisdom of God, I will send them prophets and apostles, and some of them they shall slay and persecute:(John 6:45 KJV) It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.(Rev 22:6 KJV) And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to show unto his servants the things which must shortly be done.(Amos 3:7 KJV) Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.(Eph 2:20 KJV) And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;(Eph 4:11 KJV) And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;(Eph 4:12 KJV) For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:(Eph 4:13 KJV) Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ:Since we clearly are not all unified the gifts of prophets also still exist today.
The nation of Israel also in the Bible is firstly to be associated with the priests of a Holy Nation, not rather the land.(Exo 19:6 KJV) And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel."According to the Book of Revelations, the final battle in the history of the future will be fought on an ancient battlefield in northern Israel called Armageddon. It will follow seven years of tribulation during which the earth will be shaken by such disasters that previous human history will seem like a single day in the country. The blood will rise as high as a horse’s bridle here at Armageddon, before Christ triumphs to begin his 1000-year rule. And as per the Jews? Well, two-thirds of the will have been wiped out by now. And the survivors will accept Jesus at last. “The Jews die or convert. "Some extreme Christians fundamentals want to physically expedite this to happen.What's the number one item on the agenda of the US Christian Right? Abortion? School Prayer? No and No. Believe it or not, what's most important to a lot of conservative Christians is the Jewish State. Israel: Its size, its strength, and its survival. Why? There is the alliance between America and Israel in the war on Islamic terror. But it goes deeper. For some of the Christians who re-interpret mainly the Old Testament portion Bible Israel has a crucial role to play in their bringing on the Second Coming of Christ. American Christian Zionists say they are now a more important source of support for Israel than American Jews or the traditional Jewish lobby. The return of the Jews to their ancient homeland is seen by some extreme Christian fundamentals as an essential precondition for the Second Coming of Christ. To them when the Jewish state was created in 1948 they saw it as a sign. Israel’s conquest of Jerusalem and the West Bank in 1967 deepened their excitement, heightened their anticipation and so does today's escalating war between Jews and Arabs.. for they believe that the current situation is the beginning of the final battle. “I believe that we are seeing prophecy unfold so rapidly and dramatically"Why are they looking foreword to the return of Christ when they can't live for Christ in love for the others now too?A lot of left out Muslims feel these days that Christians and Jews are suppsoedly getting together and ganging up on them. The extreme Christian Fundamentalists say "It is not just an alliance between nations but between religions. The Christians and Jews are supposedly on one side, Muslims on the other and, those lines were drawn more than a thousand years ago". But in direct response to this some of the Jews say that ."We have to get God out of this conflict if we're going to have any chance to survive as a healthy, secure Jewish state,” Establishing the kingdom of God is not the goal but to reestablish the Jewish state.“When you see what these people are encouraging Israel and the U.S. Administration to do that is, ignore the Palestinians, if not worse, if not kick them out, expand the settlements to the greatest extent possible, they are leading Israel into a scenario of out and out disaster.” and into conflict with the world as well too. The extreme Christian fundamentalists they don't seem to love the real Jewish people or the Arabs or anyone else.. for they tend to believe the only true Israelis are those who are really listening to God, the hard line Jewish settlers who live on the West Bank and Gaza and refuse to move. That's because they and the settlers share a supposedly common belief, conviction. They believe that God gave the land of Israel to the Jewish people unconditionally and forever. “Every grain of sand, every grain of sand between the Dead Sea, the Jordan River, and, and the Mediterranean Sea belongs to the Jews,” To them this includes the West Bank and Gaza. The three million Palestinians who live on the West Bank and Gaza? the bulk of them need to be could be cleansed from this God-given real estate and moved to some Arab country. Nothing can come between the Jews and their land. In fact, many of the extreme fundamentalists believe that when Prime Minister Rabin signed the Oslo accords and offered to trade land for peace, it was not only a mistake, it was a sin.All of this is mostly based on the interpretation of the Old Testament and is not supported in the New Testament as well.Jesus is still the centrality of the Bible and Jesus is the Church."And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me." (John 12:32.)
"For other foundation can no man lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ." (I. Cor. 3:11.)(Rev 12:17 KJV) And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.Note seed is also singular, o n e s e e d, and not plural as some false theologians would have us wrongfully to believe.. THERE IS ONLY ONE SEED OF CHRIST AND ONLY BODY OF CHRIST AS WELL, THE CHURCH.(Gal 3:16 KJV) Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.(Mat 13:19 KJV) When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.(Mat 13:20 KJV) But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that heareth the word, and anon with joy receiveth it;(Mat 13:22 KJV) He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful.(Mat 13:23 KJV) But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.(Mat 13:24 KJV) Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:25 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way. 26 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also. 27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares? 28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? 29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.
(Mat 13:31 KJV) Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is like to a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and sowed in his field:(Mat 13:37 KJV) He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;(Mat 13:38 KJV) The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;(John 7:42 KJV) Hath not the scripture said, That Christ cometh of the seed of David, and out of the town of Bethlehem, where David was?(John 8:33 KJV) They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free? (John 8:37 KJV) I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you.(Rom 9:7 KJV) Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.(Rom 9:8 KJV) That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.(Gal 3:19 KJV) Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.(Gal 3:29 KJV) And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.(2 Tim 2:8 KJV) Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel:(1 Pet 1:23 KJV) Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.(1 John 3:9 KJV) Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.(2 Cor 11:4 KJV) For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.(Rom 7:4 KJV) Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.(1 Cor 10:16 KJV) The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ?(1 Cor 12:27 KJV) Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.(Rom 12:5 KJV) So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another.(1 Cor 12:12 KJV) For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.(Eph 4:10 KJV) He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things. 11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers; 12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ: 16 From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love.(2 Cor 11:3 KJV) But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtlety, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.I WAS SURPRISED THERE WERE SO MANY INTERNET SITES TELLING ANYONE THAT THEY CAN NEXT HELP ANYONE TO UNDERSTAND THE BIBLE BETTER.BUT FEW SITES ACTUALLY TELL YOU TO READ THE BIBLE FOR YOURSELF, EVEN TO READ FIRST WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS, TO GET TO KNOW THE BIBLE BETTER, AND NOT RATHER WHAT THE OTHER MEN SAY AS TO WHAT THE BIBLE SUPPOSEDLY SAYS.GET TO KNOW THE BIBLE BETTER FIRST FIRST HAND TOOThe Dispensational theologians ..mere men and very confused. Dispensationalists BELIEVE WRONGFULLY On a Separate Salvation Covenant with the Jews- they wrongfully teach like some Jews do as well that God has not one, but two separate peoples of God, Israel and the Church ..and two separate methods of salvations. no such thing! Never! It is no wonder they are so clearly confused on so many other doctrines, topics such as the Holy Spirit as well.. me i will stick with my Bible and read it over what mere men say it says as well.(2 Cor 11:6 KJV) But though I be rude in speech, yet not in knowledge; but we have been thoroughly made manifest among you in all things.Secondly we have to be aware that men often lie, twist the Bible to suit their own false preferences, agendas, including the Book of Revelation.. The too often false Dispensational theology presents even the book of Revelation as well as being about Israel since Jesus was born through the Jewish race.. they are just more false judiazers who do wrongfully hate Jesus Christ, and what he fully stands for, what he Jesus did, and who he Jesus really is.. Jesus the savior of all mankind, Jew and gentile and not just the Jews. (1 Cor 15:22 KJV) For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.(2 Cor 1:21 KJV) Now he which stablisheth us with you in Christ, and hath anointed us, is God;(2 Cor 2:17 KJV) For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.(2 Cor 5:17 KJV) Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.18 And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. NO WONDER APOSTLE PAUL WAS SO DISLIKED BY THE JEWS AND JUDIAZERS TOO. (2 Cor 11:3 KJV) But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtlety, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.(Gal 6:15 KJV) For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.(Eph 2:13 KJV) But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.(Gal 3:28 KJV) There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. These false biblical misinterpreters, dispensationalist who deny the supremacy of Christ and his finished work for all do also take isolated verses out of their actual contact and twist the truth too. (Luke 11:50 KJV) That the blood of all the prophets, which was shed from the foundation of the world, may be required of this generation;We rightfully sing all Glory, Honour, power and strength to the Lord Jesus and his only and finished work for all of us, both Jew and gentile.(Rev 22:18 KJV) For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. 20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.For example:" Revelation 12 speaks of a woman who gives birth to a man child, and a dragon that seeks to devour the child. The man child is caught up to God and His throne. When the dragon fails at devouring the child, he pursues the woman. Who is this woman in heaven? Who is the dragon? Let's begin with what we are told. The dragon is stated to be “that old serpent called the Devil”. (12:9) So the dragon is symbolic of Satan. By this it is established that the characters in this account are symbolic. Given that the man child “was to rule all nations with a rod of iron” – a reference to Jesus - forces us to conclude that this man child is Jesus. Satan endeavors to destroy the “man child” brought forth by the woman. According to the gospel writers Satan did indeed try to destroy Jesus at His birth.Who then is the woman? Who is the man child the woman gives birth to? " The answer is defined in (17 ) "And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ." The women and her seed have the testimony of Jesus Christ.. so clearly this now leaves out the mostly unsaved Jews, Israel as the false dispensationalist would wrongfully have us to believe and thus still only includes the Church, the sole bride of Jesus Christ, of God.If people would read the Bible instead of reading into it they would not be so easily deceived as well.
Revelation is a New Testament book, therefore its symbolism too must be seen in the light of other New Testament verses, definitions firstly as well!
(Rev 12:1 KJV) And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:( (Eph 2:20 KJV) And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord: 22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit. (Mat 25:34 KJV) Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:(John 17:24 KJV) Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.(1 Cor 3:11 KJV) For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.(Eph 1:4 KJV) According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:) The woman thus clearly is the Church.(Rev 12:2 KJV) And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.((John 16:21 KJV) A woman when she is in travail hath sorrow, because her hour is come: but as soon as she is delivered of the child, she remembereth no more the anguish, for joy that a man is born into the world. (Gal 4:19 KJV) My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you, (1 Th 2:9 KJV) For ye remember, brethren, our labour and travail: for labouring night and day, because we would not be chargeable unto any of you, we preached unto you the gospel of God. (2 Th 3:8 KJV) Neither did we eat any man's bread for nought; but wrought with labour and travail night and day, that we might not be chargeable to any of you:) The Church is still travailing in birth.
(Rev 12:3 KJV) And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.
17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Revelation is a New Testament book, therefore its symbolism must be seen in the light of the New Testament verses, definitions as well!"In the New Testament the woman stands for the Church. Secondly we were introduced to the eternal “I am” in the previous chapter, and the details we have before us are thus given from God's perspective. Ephesians 1:4,5 speak from God's perspective concerning the Church. In God's foreknowledge she was predestinated before the foundation of the world. Paul indicates that God's acceptance of the Gentiles was predicted by Hosea. (Rom. 9:25,26) It is also Paul's position that the gospel – the New Covenant in Christ - predates the law by four hundred and thirty years. (Study Gal.3:17 and context) It is also evident that the events of Acts 2 were in God's plan long before it happened. Peter emphatically declares "This is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel." (Acts 2:16) So Pentecost was not the beginning of the Church, Pentecost was the manifestation of that which God planned and predestinated before the foundation of the world. It is because the Church was in God's plan before the foundation of the world that John sees her as a woman in heaven. However the Church could not become reality on earth without the coming of Jesus Christ. Therefore the Church - symbolized as a woman in heaven - gives birth to Jesus. God had ordained her to be, but she could not come into being without Jesus, therefore she gave birth to Jesus.
Note it: John sees the Church as a woman in heaven. Heaven is where the Church came into being, and heaven is her rightful place.(Eph.2:6) She is not a parenthesis in history. She is God's crown jewel of history. She is a heavenly being, clothed with the Sun, which speaks of Jesus.(Rev.1:16 cp Gal. 3:27)) The moon is under her feet. As a reflector of light, the moon speaks of Israel and the Old Testament era. She is crowned with twelve stars representing the twelve apostles. From God's perspective she is presented in Revelation 12 as “that which is”. She is elect, foreordained, and designated to be a joint heir and rule with Jesus Christ on this earth.Peter states that Jesus was foreordained, as the Lamb, before the foundation of the world.(1 P 1:19,20) John the Baptist announced Jesus as the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world. (John 1:29) Jesus fulfills all the Old Testament requirements as the Lamb of God. God can not and will not accept any other substitute for an atonement for sin. Therefore we are forced to conclude that the sacrifices of the Old Testament looked forward to the true: Jesus the Lamb."To wrongfully suggest that God will revert back to a former theocracy to accommodate a certain race casts disrespect over what God He has done in Jesus Christ. It also wrongfully makes Christ's work of grace appear as being inadequate for all of our redemption.
In the Book of Revelation Jesus the Lamb of God is it's center and he appears repeatedly so when we see Jesus we should also see his bride, bride there alongside with him, the Church also in Revelation"In Revelation 12 it is the Church that comes into primary focus. She is the crown jewel of God's plans and purposes. For this reason she is also the object of the dragons fury. About her Jesus said: "I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it." (Matt. 16:18) In Revelation 12 Jesus gives us the details concerning that conflict. However in God's plan the Church is! So take courage she will be victorious. God chose you before the foundation of the world, and He chose you for a purpose. In Jesus Christ you have a high and glorious calling. The dragon fails in his endeavors to devour the son brought forth by the woman. This child is set apart and designated “a man child”, with a purpose. He is to "shepherd the nations". (literal rendering) But the record shows that this child is caught up to God and His throne. It appears as if He doesn't fulfill His purpose. Then the dragon is said to pursue the woman. But the woman flees into the wilderness, where she is sustained for 1260 days. Not only does it appear as if the child doesn't fulfill his mandate, but the woman who gave birth to him comes under attack from the dragon. We know from the gospel record that Jesus was not caught up to God and His throne as a child. Jesus ascended to God after having completed the work he came to do. So obviously Jesus as the revelator shares theological truth and insight that was not given to us in the gospels. In Revelation 12 Jesus presents Himself as having been caught up to God's throne prematurely. As a result the woman's future is in jeopardy. Obviously what we are told in Revelation 12:1-6 is not the whole story. Beginning with verse 7 we are given more details in the sequence of that story. When the child is caught up to heaven, John witnesses action that takes place in heaven. We are told about a battle between Michael and the dragon accompanied by their respective angels. Since Michael is named we know that this is Michael the archangel, and he is in battle with Satan. Michael is victorious and Satan is cast out of heaven. The sequence of the story is intentional and deliberate. Jesus is showing John – and the Church - that Satan was defeated and cast out of heaven when He ascended to heaven. MARK IT! Jesus Christ's work of grace defeated Satan.Notice the text: Revelation 12:9 tells us that Satan and his angels were cast out. Verse 10 then informs us that with that casting out comes "salvation, strength, the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ." Thus the casting out of Satan and the coming of salvation, as well as the other benefits named here, happen at the same time. So if the casting out of Satan is future, then the benefits listed here must also be future. However the clear teaching of scripture is that Jesus Christ brought us salvation, as well as the kingdom. In fact a quick study of scripture indicates that all four benefits mentioned in Revelation 12:9 are ours and have been ours for the past two thousand years.
Romans 1:16 tells us that the Gospel is the power of God unto salvation. Hebrews 5:9 tells us Jesus became the author of eternal salvation. And there are many other scriptures that would indicate that salvation has been our benefit since Jesus died on the cross.
Scripture also indicates that Jesus who brought us salvation also brought us power or strength. Romans 5:6 states “For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.” On the basis of that verse, logic would suggest that since Christ died we now have strength. John 1:12 informs us that “As many as receive Him, to them gave he the power to become the sons of God.” In Phillipians 4:13: Paul states: "I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me." So obviously in Jesus Christ we have salvation and the power of God.The third benefit mentioned is the coming of the kingdom. Jesus preached "the gospel of the kingdom of God," and that's a quote from Mark 1:14. Then in verse 15 Mark quotes what Jesus said: "The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel." In Matthew 12:28 Jesus makes this observation: “But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you.” Thus the gospel, deliverance and the kingdom go hand in hand. So every deliverance and healing that happens today testifies that the kingdom is here.The final benefit mentioned is the power of his Christ. Since Christ means anointed, Revelation is here referring to the power of that anointing. Has it come. Jesus promised that: “you shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you. (Acts 1:8) Has the Church had the power to be a witness over the last two thousand years? Of course! So the power of His anointing has come. Let me give you two verses to support this: Mark 16:20 tells us that "they went forth, and preaching every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following." Acts 28:31 indicates that Paul preached the kingdom of God with confidence, no man forbidding him." So the early Church demonstrated the power of Christ's anointing, and the coming of the kingdom.Therefore the benefits that Revelation declares to come with the casting down of Satan is clearly taught to have come at Jesus Christ's first coming. Since these things have come we should conclude that Satan has been cast out of heaven. ""Jesus sent out seventy who reported upon their return that even the devils were subject to them. (Luke 10:17) To this Jesus replies: "I beheld Satan as lighting fall from heaven", and then He commissions them with power over serpents, scorpions, and all the power of the enemy. (Luke 10:18,19) Now if Satan was not cast out of heaven as Jesus stated, then what is meant by these words of Jesus? To say that Satan still has the right to accuse us before the Father makes the commission given by Jesus a sham. If God Himself still listens to Satan's accusations, then where does that leave us?
1 John 3:8 declares "For this purpose was the Son of God manifested, that he might destroy the works of the Devil." Obviously Jesus was manifested, so it must follow that He destroyed the works of the Devil. ""Satan was cast out of heaven 2000 years ago; he was stripped of his position, privileges and authority. Jesus is the only one in heaven who speaks to God about us, and He intercedes for us. Revelation 12:11 states: "They overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and the word of their testimony.""Revelation 12:11 confirms that Satan was cast out of heaven at the time that Jesus died. For it is through that shed blood that we overcome. If Satan hasn't been cast to the earth, then why tell us how to overcome him. Since he has been cast down to the earth we need a means to overcome Satan, and that means is the shed blood of Jesus, and our testimony of that fact.Revelation 12:12? It states: "therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them." It is because Satan is cast out of heaven, that the heavens and those who dwell there might rejoice.(Rom 9:28 KJV) For he will finish the work, and cut it short in righteousness: because a short work will the Lord make upon the earth.Revelation 12:12 declares Satan's time to be short. Since those words were penned by John about 2000 years ago, I'd say his time is even shorter today. Now even though Satan has great wrath, Jesus has given us the power and authority over him. Remember you overcome him by the blood of the Lamb and the word of your testimony. He has been defeated, he has been cast out of heaven. Jesus stripped him of all authority and power. Church; it is time that we believed, proclaimed, and testified to that fact.Sure we all have struggles, but it is at those times that we need to know Satan has been defeated. For a preacher to tell me that Satan is accusing me before God, when I'm already having a rough time doesn't encourage or strengthen me. And we call that the Gospel: i.e. good news? Satan is defeated! He was defeated and cast out of heaven 2000 years ago. He has no authority, privileges, or rights in your life because you have been bought with a price. God chose you, and God has a glorious purpose for you.
Revelation 12:13 informs us that after the dragon is cast to the earth, he persecutes the woman. How does the woman come to be on earth, when in verse one she is stated as being in heaven? Was she cast out with the dragon? To answer those questions we need to ask another: Is heaven only a place or does it also speak of a position? Only if we see heaven as a position can we make sense out of the text. Notice of the dragon it is explicitly stated that he is cast out of heaven - he losses his position. This is not said of the woman. The woman stands for the Church, and the Church by virtue of her position in Christ is both in heaven and on earth. She is a representative of Christ on this earth and for this reason the dragon persecutes her.
The woman is given the wings of an eagle to fly into the wilderness, a prepared place where she is nourished. Again the dragon is stifled in his attempt to get the upper hand. Although the Church is in hiding, and will be for 42 months - 1260 years - according to the text she is nourished during this time. The word nourished speaks of pampering, bringing up, or rearing. Thus the implication is that God has this all planned knowing what Satan will endeavor to do.Since his attempts fail, the serpent tries to stop the woman with a flood of water. He fails again, in that the earth helps the woman, by opening its mouth and swallowing up the flood. Satan intended to destroy the Church with a flood, but the earth - humanities structures i.e. the four major disciplines as recorded in Revelation 6 - absorbed that flood.The dragon’s anger against the woman is then vented on the woman’s seed. A reference to the Church of the post apostolic era. Although Satan is allowed to attack the woman’s seed, he is not allowed to overcome. A clear indication from Revelation that Satan is not and will never be the victor.However there is a segment of society that the dragon does gain control over. That control is felt by both society and the Church. It has been referenced in the breaking of the seals, and we are given further details of that battle in Revelation 13. " Ref: http://www3.bc.sympatico.ca/studiesinrevelation/Study10.htm