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About the Good  acceptable  theology
 
Holy Spirit  Here are some great articles on the Holy Spirit
The Holy Spirit Posted by: thenonconformer on May 3, 2008
The Holy Spirit continued Posted by: thenonconformer on May 3, 2008
Anointed Posted by: thenonconformer on May 3, 2008
Anointed Continued Posted by: thenonconformer on May 3, 2008  
 

About also the Bad Unacceptable  theology  Dispensationalism

(Isa 30:1 KJV) Woe to the rebellious children, saith the LORD, that take counsel, but not of me; and that cover with a covering, but not of my spirit, that they may add sin to sin:

I’m aware of the fact John Darby and Cyrus Scofield have led many saints into such a mess, that it’s become the tool for a Brethren cult too! Some persons do preach, write out of their guilty, to compensate for the related emptiness they are feeling, while others write because they are ambitious, they write out of seeking fame, their seeking a place of prominence.. many are just lead by the devil too. Too many persons here too are wrongfully these days adding or taking away from the word of God, the Bible and that is why there is so much disputes, different contradictory wrings in the Churches also these days.. of course this happens cause there will be always the wolves now amongst us as well, those followers of the devil who want to destroy the word of God too. It is not a coincident that too many Dispensationalists do also oppose the work of the THE HOLY SPIRIT today as well, HIS Charismatic GIFTS NOW TOO.

Dispensationalism is basically false and it is the  method of interpreting the scriptures that sees two distinct peoples of God, with two distinct destinies – Israel and the Church. It also unacceptably tries falsely to explain away  the relevance of the gifts of the holy spirit today.  It is not a coincident that too many  Dispensationalists do also oppose the work of the  THE HOLY SPIRIT today as well, HIS Charismatic GIFTS NOW TOO.

" Note: This list represents a wide segment of popular Dispensational teachings; however, Dispensationalism is by no means a monolithic entity, and many self-professed Dispensationalists, particularly in the Progressive school, would not adhere to many of its points.

Introduction: Dispensationalism is basically the method of interpreting the scriptures that sees two distinct peoples of God, with two distinct destinies – Israel and the Church. Some of the tenets that all or most contemporary mainstream Dispensationalists would hold to include the following:

  1. The Church is not the continuation of God’s Old Testament people, but a distinct body born on the Day of Pentecost.
  2. The Church is never equated with Israel in the New Testament, and Christians are not Jews, true Israel, etc.
  3. The prophecies made to Israel in the Old Testament are not being fulfilled in the Church, nor will they ever be.
  4. The Church does not participate in the New Covenant prophesied in the Old Testament; it is for ethnic Israel, and will be established in a future millennial kingdom.
  5. The Old Testament saints were saved by faith alone, on the basis of the Calvary-work of Christ alone; however, the object of their faith was not Christ, but rather the revelation peculiar to their dispensation.
  6. The Old Testament saints did not know of the coming “Church Age,” of the resurrection of Christ, or basically, of what we today call the gospel.
  7. When Jesus came to earth, he offered the Jews a physical kingdom, but they rejected him.
  8. When Jesus proclaimed “the gospel of the Kingdom,” it was the news about how ethnic Jews might enter and find rewards in this physical kingdom, and is to be distinguished from the gospel as defined in I Corinthians 15:3-4, which the apostles later proclaimed to the church.
  9. After the Jews rejected Jesus’ kingdom offer, he inaugurated a parenthetical “Church Age”, which will be concluded immediately before God again takes up his dealings with his national people, ethnic Israel.
  10. During the “Church Age,” Jesus is not reigning from the throne of David; he is engaged instead in his priestly work, and his kingly work will take place in the future millennial kingdom.
  11. At some unspecified but imminent time, Jesus will return (but not all the way to earth, just to the air) and rapture his Church, also called his Bride; for the following seven years, they will feast with him at the marriage supper of the Lamb; meanwhile, on earth, he will begin to deal with his national people, ethnic Israel, again, calling them to himself and preserving them in the midst of seven years of great tribulation; at the midpoint of which, the Antichrist will set himself up as god in the rebuilt Jewish temple, and demand worship from the world.
  12. After these seven years, Christ will return, this time all the way to earth. He will defeat the forces of evil, bind Satan and cast him into a pit, and inaugurate the physical Jewish Kingdom that he had offered during his life on earth. The Jews who survived the tribulation will populate the earth during this blessed golden era, and the Christians will reign spiritually, in glorified bodies.
  13. After these thousand years, Satan will be released and will gather an army from the offspring of the Jews who survived the tribulation. He will be finally defeated and cast into hell. At this time, the wicked dead will be resurrected and judged, whereas the righteous dead had already been resurrected one-thousand-seven years previously, at the rapture. Christ will then usher in the New Heavens and New Earth, and the destinies of all mankind will be finalized. Dispensationalists are divided as to whether or not there will remain a distinction between Christians and Jews in the New Earth. "

The New Testament Church is the continuation of this one people.

Act 15:12-17 Then all the multitude kept silence, and gave audience to Barnabas and Paul, declaring what miracles and wonders God had wrought among the Gentiles by them. And after they had held their peace, James answered, saying, Men and brethren, hearken unto me: Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name. And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written, After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up: That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things.

Rom 9:23-26 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory, Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles? As he saith also in Osee, I will call them my people, which were not my people; and her beloved, which was not beloved. And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people; there shall they be called the children of the living God.

Rom 11:11-32 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy. Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?... For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief: Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy. For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all. [Whether or not one sees a future for ethnic Israel in this passage is beside the point: in any case, there is only one people of God, represented by the one olive tree. Believing Gentiles have been grafted into this one tree, and unbelieving Jews broken off; but when they are grafted back in, it will be the same tree into which the Gentiles were grafted, God's people, true Israel.]

Gal 3:7-8 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham. And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

Gal 3:13-14 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.

Eph 2:11-22 Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ. For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us; Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace; And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby: And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh. For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father. Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord: In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

Eph 3:5-6 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit; That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:

Hence, New Testament believers are called Jews, Abraham’s seed, etc.

Rom 2:28-29 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Rom 4:11-12 And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had yet being uncircumcised: that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be not circumcised; that righteousness might be imputed unto them also: And the father of circumcision to them who are not of the circumcision only, but who also walk in the steps of that faith of our father Abraham, which he had being yet uncircumcised.

Rom 9:6-8 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

Gal 3:6-7 Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness. Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.

Gal 3:26-29 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ’s, then are ye Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Gal 4:21-31 Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law? For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman. But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise. Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children. But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all. For it is written, Rejoice, thou barren that bearest not; break forth and cry, thou that travailest not: for the desolate hath many more children than she which hath an husband. Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise. But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now. Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman. So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free.

Phi 3:3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.

Heb 12:22-24 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels, To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.

1Pe 2:9-12 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light: Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy. Dearly beloved, I beseech you as strangers and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul; Having your conversation honest among the Gentiles: that, whereas they speak against you as evildoers, they may by your good works, which they shall behold, glorify God in the day of visitation. [Some have said that these Jewish terms are applied to the Church by way of analogy, not identification. However, when Peter goes on to speak of these ethnic Gentiles in contrast with the “Gentiles,” he makes it clear that he actually is intending to refer to them as Jews.]

Rev 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. http://pjmiller.wordpress.com/2008/05/03/a-critique-of-dispensationalism-directly-from-the-scripture-1/

Continued.. http://pjmiller.wordpress.com/2008/05/03/a-critique-of-dispensationalism-directly-from-the-scripture-2/

Toni, at FilesfromToni blog has posted a very good link to vital information for those wondering where the money which is given to different Christian Zionist organizations is really going and how its NOT being used. http://filesfromtoni.blogspot.com/

The  bad fruits of Christian Zionism Of great significance that John Hagee and his scantly veiled two-covenant theology has overlooked in pursuit of a personal political agenda (in the name of Christianity) called “Christian” Zionism and what appears to be a strong bid to hijack Biblical Christianity and replace it with Judiasm are the powerful words and teachings of Paul written in Romans Chapter 9 and Galatians Chapter 4 and 5

 >> I wouldn't describe myself as a leader and as a woman don't believe I can lead other than women and children.
 
For a decade I read no books, magazine, heard no sermons, I let God teach me from his word.. I rewrote my own beliefs as a result
 
even about the role of women..  anyway there was a women Apostle, Junia, note worthy too amongst the Apostles, Imagine that Junia is a woman, and is proclaimed to be an additional apostle as well… ...

The baptism of the Holy spirit, the gifts of the Holy spirit, the Anointing , tongues, Prophets, Apostles, miracle workers, have become unarguably the most overused, overworked, misunderstood, misinterpreted, contentious terms in the non Pentecostal and in the Non Charismatic arenas, mainly in the fundamental religious circles even because many of these people are mostly still serving self, doing their own thing, looking up to mere man and not God..

Beyond the show of a doubt the devil firstly really hates any references to the Holy sprit, the anointed ones, the idea that Christians do have now empowering to overcome the devil too… and so the devil uses any of his followers, those in the fundamental religious circles too now, to now lie, twist, distort the truths… and they falsely try to say “If you check every single Biblical reference to the Anointing you should notice that .. There is not ONE SINGLE reference to the anointing being a supernatural power given to human by which they are able to perform miracles… There is not ONE SINGLE reference to anyone being able to transmit the anointing by any means, including the laying on of hands… There is not ONE SINGLE reference to getting, keeping, increasing, or losing the anointing.”

Mind you they these liars do have to Tear out the whole Old Testament for a start.. the prophets were clearly anointed, and performed miracles, and the same Jesus yesterday, today and forever who lives in us today too, who was anointed and performed miracles he had also said that believers will do even greater things now too. In the reality now after all Samson next lost his anointing.. and so did King Saul lose his anointing .. and David asked God not to take away his anointing too after he had sinned with Bathsheba.. It’s the frequent and methodical strategy of those people not Holy sprit filled, those walking in the flesh that they bash, recite against anyone who has evidenced the Holy Spirit anoint still too, thus contradictorily opposing these false professors own false, unscriptural doctrine and practice. It’s now a charge of their “blasphemy of the Holy Spirit” and their disobedience of “touch not the Lord’s anointed.”

While the Antichrist and False Prophet themselves will possess the credential that they do reputedly perform miracles. While the devil does try to counterfeit the miracles of God, those now done by Moses too, the existence of the devil and his bad works, the counterfeits now still does not nullify the present reality, existence of God genuine gifts, miracles and real prophets, miracles workers, apostles now too. REALITY.

Jude 1:3 Beloved, my whole concern was to write to you in regard to our common salvation. [But] I found it necessary {and} was impelled to write you and urgently appeal to {and} exhort [you] to contend for the faith which was once for all handed down to the saints [the faith which is that sum of Christian belief which was delivered verbally to the holy people of God].

I must say that I am really disappointed these days with even two things, the amplified Bible’s too often distortions of basic Christian Doctrines, and even with some professing Christian denominations, Churches distortions of the basic Christian doctrines even in regard to what the basic ministry of the church now should be today as well.. Beyond a shadow of the doubt the church’s ministry was to the local poor Christians and those abroad too, and that was why the office of the deacon was specifically created, the deacon in the New testament was not a money collector, or the church finance officer, but a social worker who distributed money to the poor people mainly, unlike too often today as well in the churches.. Now looking at what the Bible says,,

Eph 4:11 And His gifts were [varied; He Himself appointed and gave, continues still today to give, gifted, equiped men to us] some to be apostles (special messengers), some prophets (inspired preachers and expounders), some evangelists (preachers of the Gospel, traveling missionaries), some pastors (shepherds of His flock) and teachers. 12 His intention was the perfecting {and} the full equipping of the saints (His consecrated people), [that they should do] the work of ministering toward building up ( physically and spiritually now too) Christ’s body (the church), 13 [That it might develop] until we all attain oneness in the faith and in the comprehension of the [full and accurate] knowledge of the Son of God, that [we might arrive] at really mature manhood (the completeness of personality which is nothing less than the standard height of Christ’s own perfection), the measure of the stature of the fullness of the Christ {and} the completeness found in Him. ( meaning clearly the same works Jesus did we are also to do now too)

1 Pet 5:1 I WARN {and} counsel the elders among you (the pastors and spiritual guides of the church) as a fellow elder and as an eyewitness [called to testify] of the sufferings of Christ, as well as a sharer in the glory (the honor and splendor) that is to be revealed (disclosed, unfolded):

I want to look at the Amplified Bible’s limitation of the definition of the office of Apostles, Prophets, evangelist, pastors, teachers

-The Apostle is defined as a messenger, and yet the same description is almost given to the Evangelist too, the difference is the word special is added to the Apostle..

-Similarly prophets and teachers seem to hold similar offices according to the amplified Bible
and if these equipped, gifted, church positions are so similar with would be clearly redundant to have different names for the same offices, God has a reasons to call these offices different cause these persons do, did different things generally too…

-Pastors seem to be rightfully defined as shepherds of the flock… and note this the plural term of shepherds us used, and they rightfully are not defined as an ruling elder, an administrator too.

-Even the office of elders is mis-defined, and is limited to being pastors, and spiritual guides, when we all can know that in the new testament, the apostles, and prophets, were also called elders now.,.. not just the pastors or evangelists, teachers..

- All these gifted persons, Apostles, Prophets, evangelist, pastors, teachers, now also are existing now these days for the Greek term God gave means actual he continues to give to the church, the tense is continual present and they were mutually, willingly submissive one to another in the church.. unlike too often rather today.

An Apostle, plural gift too, to be fair the definition of a New testament Apostle it today does not totally match the actual functions that the Apostles performed in the New Testament, for they now also were also not just preachers, evangelists, expounders, shepherds, administrators, ruling elders, as the situation required them to be but do note this clearly healing was a part of the ministry, for firstly they also manifested now all the gifts of the Holy spirit. It seems the church these days falsely has lost it’s essential ministry of compassion to the sick and the poor so that is what they seem to discredit the existence of the Apostles, healers too..

Similarly the New testament Evangelists, plural term too, they were also healers, not just preachers, travelling missionaries. Read the Bible for yourself and see this fact, truth.

Ezek 34:4 The diseased {and} weak you have not strengthened, the sick you have not healed, the hurt {and} crippled you have not bandaged, those gone astray you have not brought back, the lost you have not sought to find, but with force and hardhearted harshness you have ruled them.

Matt 4:24 So the report of Him ( Jesus) spread throughout all Syria, and they brought Him all who were sick, those afflicted with various diseases and torments, those under the power of demons, and epileptics, and paralyzed people, and He healed them.

Acts 28:8 And it happened that the father of Publius was sick in bed with recurring attacks of fever and dysentery; and Paul went to see him, and after praying and laying his hands on him, he healed him.

And when was the last time you now even saw a Pastor submissive to the other church elders, rather it seems these day the pastor, often only singularly too, he wrongfully tries to force the elders to be under their submission alone which is clearly a non New Testament approach too.

The other reason we clearly do not see these God equipped persons wrongfully in most churches, is firstly because they now have put the wrong persons in the potions, rather too often unspiritual , unqualified persons in reality and they need to now change this drastically too.

And it is not just these days the Baptist, Plymouth, Brethren, Mennonites, Lutheran, others who have it all wrong but even many Pentecostal churches. I was in the local Pentecostal church, Pentecostal assembly of Canada church too, and they wrongfully firstly did no home visitations at all for a start. Yes they care about compulsory tithing for the support of the pastor, church, it seems… but how can you be a pastor shepherd and not know the state of the flock, not be with them in their homes. What Kind of shepherd now would leave his flock alone in the field to fend themselves alone against the wolves, lions, bears, etc., while he stayed at home in the house being an administrator, preacher, teacher rather a “Hireling” now only? and he did not look after the sick, poor, and did not pray for them in their homes to be healed like the apostles, elders often did in the new testament church did That would be ridiculous too you would rightfully say too. Sure to say a false face they offer to pray for the sick in the church, and when the sick person was not healed, they had falsely blamed the sick person as being the guilty culprit for the sickness, and the reasons now, next them not being cured, due to their own sinfulness.. what hypocrites the church elders here are too for firstly while we are all sinners, Jesus and the apostle healed any sinner now as well. Which clearly they still cannot do and wrongfully do not determine why they cannot do. In their behavior they are not any better than managers of a secular corporations, and how they treat their employees.. and is nothing Christian here rather.

God still only expects all of the church elders now too to be willing to serve the poor, the sick and needy, and he by his holy spirit will equip the church elders into that role even today. But if you are unwilling, have the role as a self serving option  it is no wonder God rightfully does not equip them too often theses days too.

I was really still surprised to note how many pastors are often fired from their jobs, for God still does fire bad pastors even these days, rightfully too.

Prov 27:23 Be diligent to know the state of your flocks, and look well to your herds; 24 For riches are not forever; does a crown endure to all generations? { the false pursuit especially for pastors, elders of riches, that can disappear in a moment, is vanity firstly too, and you can be your employment terminated, you dismissed from your job for doing so too now} 25 When the hay is gone, the tender grass shows itself, and herbs of the mountain are gathered in, 26 The lambs will be for your clothing, and the goats [will furnish you] the price of a field. 27 And there will be goats’ milk enough for your food, for the food of your household, and for the maintenance of your maids.

Ezek 14:7 For anyone of the house of Israel or of the strangers who sojourn in Israel who separates himself from Me, taking his idols into his heart and putting the stumbling block of his iniquity {and} guilt before his face, and [yet] comes to the prophet to inquire for himself of Me, I the Lord will answer him Myself!

Ezek 20:38 And I will purge out {and} separate from among you the rebels and those who transgress against Me; I will bring them out of the country where they temporarily dwell, but they shall not enter the land of Israel. Then you shall know, understand, {and} realize that I am the Lord.

Jer 1:5 Before I formed you in the womb I knew [and] approved of you [as My chosen, equipped instrument], and before you were born I separated {and} set you apart, consecrating you; [and] I appointed you as a prophet to the nations.

Jer 15:19 Therefore thus says the Lord If you return [and give up this mistaken tone of distrust and despair], then I will give you again a settled place of quiet {and} safety, and you will be My minister; and if you separate the precious from the vile [also cleansing your own heart from unworthy and unwarranted suspicions concerning God's truth], you shall be My mouthpiece. [But do not yield to them.] Let them return to you–not you to [the people].

On false prophets

(Mat 7:15 KJV) Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

(Mat 10:16 KJV) Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.

(Acts 20:29 KJV) For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.

(2 Tim 4:1 KJV) I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; 2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. 3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

(Prov 28:13) He that covers his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesses and forsakes them shall have mercy.

(Prov 28:14) Happy is the man that fears always: but he that hardens his heart shall fall into mischief.

Some persons do preach, write out of their guilty, to compensate for the related emptiness they are feeling, while others write because they are ambitious, they write out of seeking fame, their seeking a place of prominence.. I tend to be very conservative in my writings, I tend not to readily write unless I am really sure that I am inspired by the Holy Sprit, and I can always be prompted, reminded, inspired to write something if God wants me to do so..

Too many persons here too are wrongfully these days adding or taking away from the word of God, the Bible and that is why there is so much disputes, different contradictory wrings in the Churches also these days.. of course this happens cause there will be always the wolves now amongst us as well, those followers of the devil who want to destroy the word of God too.

As far as I am concerned a Women can be a Church Pastor if she has God or her husband’s permission.. and even  the vice president of the United States, or a President. We can use more Women like her now in Canadian Politics for it has been too clearly evident that the men have not being doing a good enough job or we would not be having so many minority governments, and useless elections in Canada.

In the Old Testament Miriam was a prophetess (Exodus 15:20) as was Huldah (2 Kings 22:14) and Noadiah (Neh. 6:14).  Prophetesses from God spoke with authority and was ordained by God that they did so.  But, most pertinent to the topic at hand is Deborah who was a judge in Israel (Judges 4:4-5).  Deborah exercised governmental power over the nation of Israel.  She was most definitely in a place of authority over men in government and there is no condemnation of her being a judge found anywhere in scripture.

But, some might ask if Deborah was in a place of authority in Israel, why can’t a woman be in a place of authority in the church? 

(1 Tim. 3:2; Titus 1:6).  Also, 1 Tim. 2:11-12 says, “Let a woman quietly receive instruction with entire submissiveness. 12 But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet. 13 For it was Adam who was first created, and then Eve.” 

(Mat 7:15 KJV) Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

(Mat 10:16 KJV) Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.

(Acts 20:29 KJV) For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock.

(2 Tim 4:1 KJV) I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; 2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. 3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; 4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

(Prov 28:13) He that covers his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesses and forsakes them shall have mercy.

(Prov 28:14) Happy is the man that fears always: but he that hardens his heart shall fall into mischief.

Some persons do preach, write out of their guilty, to compensate for the related emptiness they are feeling, while others write because they are ambitious, they write out of seeking fame, their seeking a place of prominence.. I tend to be very conservative in my writings, I tend not to readily write unless I am really sure that I am inspired by the Holy Sprit, and I can always be prompted, reminded, inspired to write something if God wants me to do so..

Too many persons here too are wrongfully these days adding or taking away from the word of God, the Bible and that is why there is so much disputes, different contradictory wrings in the Churches also these days.. of course this happens cause there will be always the wolves now amongst us as well, those followers of the devil who want to destroy the word of God too.

(Rom 16:7 KJV) Salute Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen, and my fellow prisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me.

Imagine that Junia is a woman, and is proclaimed to be an additional apostle as well…

 Well anyway there was a women Apostle, Junia, note worthy too amongst the Apostles, and she had a place of authority.. an apostle is a Missionary.. women can be missionaries on the foreign mission field.. but not in a local church? it all sounded  confusing once to me too.

According to my reading of the scriptures the term Pastor is always plural, not singular,  meaning there are too be many pastors in any local church, and pastors have to submit to the gifted elders, who are the apostles- missionaries and prophets- appointed by  God as his spokesman – the NT Greek verb is continually present- meaning God continues to give these men ( or women – such as Julia note worthy amongst the apostles) unto the church now as well , but  most pastors tend to deny the existence of these God ordained, given offices even today,  even cause they themselves are rebels who wrongfully refuse to submit to other’s and submission is mutual- meaning reciprocal.. and also note this it is still voluntarily, unenforceable..

"The word apostle in the Greek is apostollos or “one sent forth” as an ambassador of the Gospel.  An apostle is a minister sent directly by God to do a specific work. A number of the saints of God and even Jesus himself were called apostles in the New Testament.

This will come as a shock to many of you, but there is no such thing as “offices” in the New Testament when it refers to these ministry gifts. The so-called “five fold ministries” more accurately describe functions in the body of Christ than positions. Men love titles and offices, but that is the way of fallen man (see 1 Sam. 8:6-7). The only time the word “office” is used in the original Greek New Testament is referring to Matthew, who sat at the office of tax collector (see Matt. 9:9). Matthew did not trade an office in the Roman government for another political position in the church.

Now let us see what the Bible says about the ministry of apostle.

Jesus is called an Apostle

1 Therefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our confession, Christ Jesus. (Hebrews 3:1, NKJV).

3 And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent. (John 17:3, NKJV).

The calling of the original twelve

Jesus called his inner circle of twelve disciples together and sent them out.  After that they are called “apostles.”

1 And when He had called His twelve disciples to Him, He gave them power over unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all kinds of sickness and all kinds of disease.
2 Now the names of the twelve apostles are these: first, Simon, who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother; James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother;
3 Philip and Bartholomew; Thomas and Matthew the tax collector; James the son of Alphaeus, and Lebbaeus, whose surname was Thaddaeus;
4 Simon the Canaanite, and Judas Iscariot, who also betrayed Him.
5 These twelve Jesus sent out. (Matthew 10:1-5a, NKJV).

Peter felt Judas Iscariot should be replaced, and he gave a list of qualifications to be one of the twelve.

20 “For it is written in the book of Psalms: ‘Let his dwelling place be desolate, And let no one live in it’; and, ‘Let another take his office.’ Therefore, of these men who have accompanied us all the time that the Lord Jesus went in and out among us,
22 beginning from the baptism of John to that day when He was taken up from us, one of these must become a witness with us of His resurrection.”

And they proposed two: Joseph called Barsabas, who was surnamed Justus, and Matthias. And they prayed and said, “You, O Lord, who know the hearts of all, show which of these two You have chosen to take part in this ministry and apostleship from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place.” And they cast their lots, and the lot fell on Matthias. And he was numbered with the eleven apostles. (Acts 1:20-26, NKJV).

Jesus appointed twelve men at first to be the apostles

1 And when He had called His twelve disciples to Him, He gave them power over unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all kinds of sickness and all kinds of disease. Now the names of the twelve apostles are these: first, Simon, who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother; James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother; Philip and Bartholomew; Thomas and Matthew the tax collector; James the son of Alphaeus, and Lebbaeus, whose surname was Thaddaeus; Simon the Canaanite, and Judas Iscariot, who also betrayed Him. These twelve Jesus sent out and commanded them, saying: “Do not go into the way of the Gentiles, and do not enter a city of the Samaritans.” (Matthew 10:1-5, NKJV).

Later the Holy Spirit chose Paul and Barnabus and sent them forth as apostles

Now in the church that was at Antioch there were certain prophets and teachers: Barnabas, Simeon who was called Niger, Lucius of Cyrene, Manaen who had been brought up with Herod the tetrarch, and Saul.  As they ministered to the Lord and fasted, the Holy Spirit said, “Now separate to Me Barnabas and Saul for the work to which I have called them.”

Then, having fasted and prayed, and laid hands on them, they sent them away. So, being sent out by the Holy Spirit, they went down to Seleucia, and from there they sailed to Cyprus. (Acts 13:1-4, NKJV).

Paul also saw Jesus and was commissioned by Him

. . .and that He was seen by Cephas, then by the twelve. After that He was seen by over five hundred brethren at once, of whom the greater part remain to the present, but some have fallen asleep. After that He was seen by James, then by all the apostles.  Then last of all He was seen by me also, as by one born out of due time. For I am the least of the apostles, who am not worthy to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.  But by the grace of God I am what I am, and His grace toward me was not in vain; but I labored more abundantly than they all, yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me. (1 Corinthians 15:5-10, NKJV).

So the Lord said to him, “Arise and go to the street called Straight, and inquire at the house of Judas for one called Saul of Tarsus, for behold, he is praying. And in a vision he has seen a man named Ananias coming in and putting his hand on him, so that he might receive his sight.”

Then Ananias answered, “Lord, I have heard from many about this man, how much harm he has done to Your saints in Jerusalem. And here he has authority from the chief priests to bind all who call on Your name.”

But the Lord said to him, “Go, for he is a chosen vessel of Mine to bear My name before Gentiles, kings, and the children of Israel. For I will show him how many things he must suffer for My name’s sake.” (Acts 9:11-16, NKJV).

Many others are also named as Apostles in the New Testament

Silas and Timothy

Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus, unto the church of the Thessalonians which is in God the Father and in the Lord Jesus Christ: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ. . .Nor of men sought we glory, neither of you, nor yet of others, when we might have been burdensome, as the apostles of Christ.  (1 Thessalonians 2:6, KJV).

Barnabus

But the multitude of the city was divided: and part held with the Jews, and part with the apostles.  (Acts 14:4, KJV)

Which when the apostles, Barnabas and Paul, heard of, they rent their clothes, and ran in among the people, crying out,  (Acts 14:14, KJV).

Andronicus and Junia

Salute Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen, and my fellow prisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me.  (Romans 16:7, KJV).

Titus and two unnamed brothers (messengers=apostolos)

Whether any do enquire of Titus, he is my partner and fellow helper concerning you: or our brethren be enquired of, they are the messengers [Greek - apostelos] of the churches, and the glory of Christ.  (2 Corinthians 8:23, KJV).

With these examples in mind it seems that the hard requirements laid down by Peter while they were waiting for the manifestation of the Holy Spirit on the day of Pentecost were out of order. Some of these others did not all fit the bill, “these men which have companied with us all the time that the Lord Jesus went in and out among us, beginning from the baptism of John, unto that same day that he was taken up from us.”

Like Paul, an apostle is called out by God to minister to a certain group of people. This call is not of men, but for enlarging of God’s kingdom, whether man acknowledges the calling or not.

How Shall We Identify an Apostle?

A.) An Apostle is identified by his spiritual authority.

12 Truly the signs of an apostle were wrought among you in all patience, in signs, and wonders, and mighty deeds.  (2 Corinthians 12:12, KJV).

B.) An apostle is called by God, not men.

6 But from those who seemed to be something–whatever they were, it makes no difference to me; God shows personal favoritism to no man–for those who seemed to be something added nothing to me.
7 But on the contrary, when they saw that the gospel for the uncircumcised had been committed to me, as the gospel for the circumcised was to Peter
8 (for He who worked effectively in Peter for the apostleship to the circumcised also worked effectively in me toward the Gentiles),
9 and when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that had been given to me, they gave me and Barnabas the right hand of fellowship, that we should go to the Gentiles and they to the circumcised. (Galatians 2:6-9, NKJV) 

1 Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;)   (Galatians 1:1, KJV).

Missionaries

The word missionary has the same root in Greek as apostle; both mean one sent forth.  Today’s missionary is only a true apostle if he has been sent specifically by God, and if this apostolic authority is operating in his ministry.

In the Old Testament, Abraham, Joseph (the patriarch) and Moses played the role of apostles.  They were set apart, chosen, and sent out to accomplish a specific task that built up and called out God’s chosen people.

In these later days there were Praying John Hyde to India; Hudson Taylor to China; John G. Lake to South Africa and many others.  There have also been women sent forth.  One example I have met is Jackie Pullinger Tu, who God called at 18 to leave England and minister to the drug addicts, prostitutes and gang members in the old walled city in Hong Kong.

There are various signs and attributes of an apostle

A.) They are taught by God

11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.  (Galatians1:11-12, KJV).

B.) They minister in the power of God, not the wisdom of men

5 For our gospel came not unto you in word only, but also in power, and in the Holy Ghost, and in much assurance; as ye know what manner of men we were among you for your sake.  (1Thessalonians 1:5, KJV).

20 And they went forth, and preached everywhere, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.  (Mark 16:20, KJV).

1 And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God.
2 For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.
3 And I was with you in weakness, and in fear, and in much trembling.
4 And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man’s wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:
5 That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God. (1Corinthians 2:1-5, KJV).

20 For the kingdom of God is not in word, but in power.  (1 Corinthians 4:20, KJV).

C.) Their fruit manifests the living God

1 Do we begin again to commend ourselves? or need we, as some others, epistles of commendation to you, or letters of commendation from you?
2 Ye are our epistle written in our hearts, known and read of all men:
3 Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.  (2 Corinthians 3:1-3, KJV).

D.)  They lead by Christ’s example

5 For our gospel came not unto you in word only, but also in power, and in the Holy Ghost, and in much assurance; as ye know what manner of men we were among you for your sake.
6 And ye became followers of us, and of the Lord, having received the word in much affliction, with joy of the Holy Ghost:
7 So that ye were ensamples to all that believe in Macedonia and Achaia. (1 Thessalonians 1:5-7, KJV).

6 Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us.
7 For yourselves know how ye ought to follow us: for we behaved not ourselves disorderly among you…  (2 Thessalonians 3:6-7, KJV).

E.)  They please God, not men

4 But as we were allowed of God to be put in trust with the gospel, even so we speak; not as pleasing men, but God, which trieth our hearts. (1 Thessalonians 2:4, KJV).

10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.  (Galatians 1:10, KJV).

F.) They don’t flatter men

5 For neither at any time used we flattering words, as ye know, nor a cloke of covetousness; God is witness:  (1 Thessalonians 2:5, KJV)

17 For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.  (2 Corinthians 2:17, KJV).

2 But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man’s conscience in the sight of God. (2 Corinthians 4:2, KJV).

G.) They are gentle with the saints

7 But we were gentle among you, even as a nurse cherisheth her children: (1Thessalonians 2:7, KJV).

H.) They are often self-supporting  (a lack of funding from others does not deter them from their mission)

9 For ye remember, brethren, our labour and travail: for labouring night and day, because we would not be chargeable unto any of you, we preached unto you the gospel of God.  (1 Thessalonians 2:9, KJV).

8 Neither did we eat any man’s bread for nought; but wrought with labour and travail night and day, that we might not be chargeable to any of you:
9 Not because we have not power, but to make ourselves an ensample unto you to follow us.
10 For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.  (2 Thessalonians 3:8-10, KJV).

33 I have coveted no man’s silver, or gold, or apparel.
34 Yea, ye yourselves know, that these hands have ministered unto my necessities, and to them that were with me.  (Acts 20:33-34, KJV).

17 Did I make a gain of you by any of them whom I sent unto you?
18 I desired Titus, and with him I sent a brother. Did Titus make a gain of you? walked we not in the same spirit? walked we not in the same steps? (2 Corinthians 12:17-18, KJV).

I.) They are holy, righteous, and blameless

10 Ye are witnesses, and God also, how holily and justly and unblameably we behaved ourselves among you that believe:  (1Thessalonians 2:10, KJV).

J.)  They exhort, comfort, and chasten as necessary

11 As ye know how we exhorted and comforted and charged  [chastened or scourged] every one of you, as a father doth his children,  (1Thessalonians 2:11, KJV).

5 And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:
6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

11 Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby.  (Hebrews 12:5-8 and 11, KJV).

1 It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father’s wife.
2 And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you.
3 For I verily, as absent in body, but present in spirit, have judged already, as though I were present, concerning him that hath so done this deed,
4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ,
5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.  (1 Corinthians 5:1-5, KJV).

K.)  Their glory is the glorious church

19 For what is our hope, or joy, or crown of rejoicing? Are not even ye in the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ at his coming?
20 For ye are our glory and joy.  (1 Thessalonians 2:19-20, KJV).

14 As also ye have acknowledged us in part, that we are your rejoicing, even as ye also are ours in the day of the Lord Jesus.  (2 Corinthians 1:14, KJV)

1 Therefore, my brethren dearly beloved and longed for, my joy and crown, so stand fast in the Lord, my dearly beloved.  (Philippians 4:1, KJV).

L.)  They endure hardship and persecution for the church’s sake

11 Even unto this present hour we both hunger, and thirst, and are naked, and are buffeted, and have no certain dwelling place;
12 And labour, working with our own hands: being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we suffer it:
13 Being defamed, we intreat: we are made as the filth of the world, and are the offscouring of all things unto this day.  (1 Corinthians 4:11-13, KJV).
11 To the present hour we both hunger and thirst, and we are poorly clothed, and beaten, and homeless.
12 And we labor, working with our own hands. Being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we endure;
13 being defamed, we entreat. We have been made as the filth of the world, the offscouring of all things until now. (1 Corinthians 4:11-13, NKJV).

23 Are they ministers of Christ? –I speak as a fool–I am more: in labors more abundant, in stripes above measure, in prisons more frequently, in deaths often.
24 From the Jews five times I received forty stripes minus one.
25 Three times I was beaten with rods; once I was stoned; three times I was shipwrecked; a night and a day I have been in the deep;
26 in journeys often, in perils of waters, in perils of robbers, in perils of my own countrymen, in perils of the Gentiles, in perils in the city, in perils in the wilderness, in perils in the sea, in perils among false brethren;
27 in weariness and toil, in sleeplessness often, in hunger and thirst, in fastings often, in cold and nakedness–
28 besides the other things, what comes upon me daily: my deep concern for all the churches.
29 Who is weak, and I am not weak? Who is made to stumble, and I do not burn with indignation?
30 If I must boast, I will boast in the things which concern my infirmity.
31 The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who is blessed forever, knows that I am not lying. (2 Corinthians 11:23-31, NKJV).

How long will there be apostles?

Ephesians 4:11-16 describes the house in its perfection with Christ as its head.

11 And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers,
12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ,
13 till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ;
14 that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting,
15 but, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him who is the head–Christ–
16 from whom the whole body, joined and knit together by what every joint supplies, according to the effective working by which every part does its share, causes growth of the body for the edifying of itself in love. (Ephesians 4:11-16, NKJV).

Note verse 12 says Jesus gave the apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors, and teachers “for the perfecting of the saints for the work of the ministry.”  They are to perfect the saints to do the work, not do it all themselves!  Those who operate in these gifts are always working for the maturation of the saints so that the saints can do the work of the ministry.  Verse 16 says the whole body is to be fitly joined together.  This joining supplies its needs as each member does his part to edify the body in love. The supply comes from the joining of the saints as they minister to one another in the Spirit, not by them sitting in a pew while one man does it all.

Don’t let anyone tell you apostles and prophets died off with the twelve of the early Church.  Because apostles and prophets are ministers who do not draw attention to themselves, they often don’t protest this teaching, but the Bible does. These five ministries will continue to prosper until “we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ.”  (Ephesians 4:13, KJV). This verse is far from fulfilled now, but as men and women rise up to their callings in Christ and in the power of His Spirit, it will come to pass.

Upon Which Foundation?

There is only ONE Foundation upon which the Church of Jesus Christ is built. It is Jesus Christ, not mere men. Did I hear you say, “Yes, but how about Ephesians 2:20?”

20 having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief cornerstone, (Ephesians 2:20, NKJV).

The foundation of the church is laid by the apostles and prophets and only in that since is it “their” foundation. Consider these other verses that speak of the True Foundation.

10 According to the grace of God which was given to me, as a wise master builder I have laid the foundation, and another builds on it. But let each one take heed how he builds on it.
11 For no other foundation can anyone lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ.(1 Corinthians 3:10,11, NKJV).

Note that Paul said HE “laid the foundation,” not “I am the foundation.”

Consider this Messianic passage out of Isaiah,

16 So, the Lord Jehovah says this: Behold, I place in Zion a Stone for a foundation, a tried Stone, a precious Cornerstone, a sure Foundation; he who believes shall not hurry. (Isaiah 28:16, GLT).

Notice here that the same One that is the Stone in Zion is the Tried Stone, the Precious Cornerstone is also the Sure Foundation.

One thing further. Wherever you find the false apostolic at work, you will find men begging for money.

“And every apostle who cometh among you, let him be received as the Lord; but he shall not remain more than one day; if, however, there be need, then the next day; but if he remain three days, he is a false prophet. But when the apostle departeth, let him take nothing except bread enough till he lodge again; but if he ask money, he is a false prophet.” (”The Didache” also called “The Teaching of the Twelve Apostles,” chapter eleven, [circa 100 A. D.]).

True apostles depend on God and support themselves where necessary, and will not ask the church to support them or their ministry.

Now for the third time I am ready to come to you. And I will not be burdensome to you; for I do not seek yours, but you. For the children ought not to lay up for the parents, but the parents for the children. And I will very gladly spend and be spent for your souls; though the more abundantly I love you, the less I am loved.(2 Corinthians 12:14,15, NKJV).

 No servant can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon. (Luke 16:13, NKJV).

Dear saints of God, we must ask the Lord to purify our minds and hearts so that we can see the scriptures for what they say and quit reading them through the traditions of men that make  the commandments of God of no effect (see Matthew 15:6)."

http://truedsicernment.com/2008/06/28/charisma-magazine-declares-lakeland-a-legitimate-move-of-god/

Has God called pastors to be CEOs of religious organizations, or has he called men to be spiritual leaders over the churches of Christ? Neither… the elders run the church, and pastors are just one of the many church elders..

We also need to be reminded that all abusers should go straight to jail.. even the bad posters, bad pastors, bad christians now too.

I also had thought that Christian women also were not allowed to have short hair cuts, and what do husbands allow it in the  church now too?  A variety of more fundamental Christian religions discourage short hair on women, some congregations prohibit hair cuts beyond a trim for women. It tends to vary congregation to congregation; as opposed to being an aspect of a particular denomination. I know the belief is based on passages in the old testament, likely the those that indicate that women should not try to look like men. These denominations also tend to prohibit pants on women, jewelry beyond a watch and wedding band, make-up, etc. Are they extremists or legalists too?

I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God. 4 Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head. 5 And every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head—it is just as though her head were shaved. 6 If a woman does not cover her head, she should have her hair cut off; and if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut or shaved off, she should cover her head. 7 A man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of man. 8 For man did not come from woman, but woman from man; 9 neither was man created for woman, but woman for man. 10 For this reason, and because of the angels, the woman ought to have a sign of authority on her head.
11 In the Lord, however, woman is not independent of man, nor is man independent of woman. 12 For as woman came from man, so also man is born of woman. But everything comes from God. 13 Judge for yourselves: Is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered? 14 Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him, 15 but that if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For long hair is given to her as a covering. 16 If anyone wants to be contentious about this, we have no other practice—nor do the churches of God. I Corinthians 11:3-6

1 Cor. 11:2-16 – essentially, women should cover their heads in church, and men should not. Some interpret this as being a thing of long vs. short hair.

1 Peter 3:3 – women shouldn’t put too much emphasis on outer beauty, like braiding their hair.

One of the most popular views today is that the head covering was actually the woman’s hair. The exegesis of the text that adopts this view keys in on verse 15. “…but that if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For long hair is given to her as a covering.”  It is quite plain.

It reveals that the early generation of believers understood the head covering to be a cloth veil—not long hair. As Tertullian quoted in an earlier post indicated, even the women who did not wish to follow Paul’s teaching were not claiming that Paul was talking about long hair. Rather, they simply wore a small cloth in minimal obedience to his teaching.

Numbers 6:1-21 – Nazarite vow – the Nazarite shaves his head at the beginning of the vow, and then cannot cut his hair for the duration of the vow. The character Samson (as in Samson and Delilah) was a Nazarite. in Numbers 6: 5,6, and 13 we read, “All the days of the vow of his separation there shall no razor come upon his head: until the days be fulfilled, in the which he separateth himself unto the Lord, he shall be holy, and shall let the locks of the hair of his head grow. All the days that he separateth himself unto the lord he shall come at no dead body. and this is the law of the Nazarite, when the days of his separation are fulfilled: he shall be brought unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation.”

or was it men not being allowed to have long hair?  I Corinthians 11:14 says, “Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?”

We need God to tell us the truth.. not too often false men...

(Rom 16:7 KJV) Salute Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen, and my fellow prisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me.

Imagine that Junia is a woman, and is proclaimed to be an additional apostle as well…

(1 Cor 1:10 KJV) Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment.

(1 Cor 1:11 KJV) For it hath been declared unto me of you, my brethren, by them which are of the house of Chloe, that there are contentions among you.

(1 Cor 2:2 KJV) For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.

(1 Cor 3:3 KJV) For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?

(1 Cor 5:13 KJV) But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

(1 Cor 6:5 KJV) I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?

(1 Cor 11:19 KJV) For there must be also heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you.

(2 Cor 6:17 KJV) Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,

(Phil 2:15 KJV) That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;

(1 Th 5:13 KJV) And to esteem them very highly in love for their work’s sake. And be at peace among yourselves.

(1 Th 5:15 KJV) See that none render evil for evil unto any man; but ever follow that which is good, both among yourselves, and to all men.

(2 Th 3:7 KJV) For yourselves know how ye ought to follow us: for we behaved not ourselves disorderly among you;

(2 Th 3:11 KJV) For we hear that there are some which walk among you disorderly, working not at all, but are busybodies.

(2 Tim 2:2 KJV) And the things that thou hast heard of me among many witnesses, the same commit thou to faithful men, who shall be able to teach others also.

(James 1:26 KJV) If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man’s religion is vain.

(James 3:6 KJV) And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell.

(James 3:13 KJV) Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him show out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom.

(James 4:1 KJV) From whence come wars and fightings among you? come they not hence, even of your lusts that war in your members?

(1 Pet 4:8 KJV) And above all things have fervent charity among yourselves: for charity shall cover the multitude of sins.

(1 Pet 5:1 KJV) The elders which are among you I exhort, who am also an elder, and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory that shall be revealed:

(1 Pet 5:2 KJV) Feed the flock of God which is among you, taking the oversight thereof, not by constraint, but willingly; not for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind;

(2 Pet 2:1 KJV) But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

(3 John 1:9 KJV) I wrote unto the church: but Diotrephes, who loveth to have the preeminence among them, receiveth us not.

(Jude 1:15 KJV) To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.

(2 Pet 1:2 KJV) Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord, 3 According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue: 4 Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust. 5 And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge; 6 And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness; 7 And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity. 8 For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.

(Rev 22:17 KJV) And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely. 18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. 20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus. 21 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.

I am surprised that you are so easily led astray  (Gal 1:8 KJV)  But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.9   As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

In reality even a once fundamental denomination, Baptist, Pentecostal, Brethren leader can lead you astray even today.,

The False prosperity Gospel

According to some false pastors  Christians achieve prosperity through giving.  “When you give to God, He controls your income. There is no such thing as a fixed income in the kingdom of God. Your income is controlled by your giving.”

Jesus, however, nor the apostles  did not teach any such doctrine. They  taught a future, heavenly reward, rather than a present, earthly, temporary prosperity. He taught that the poor would always exist on this earth. King Solomon and the Apostle Paul definitely had warned us all of the folly of seeking riches and prosperity.

• And he lifted up his eyes on his disciples, and said, Blessed be ye poor: for yours is the kingdom of God. Blessed are ye that hunger now: for ye shall be filled. Blessed are ye that weep now: for ye shall laugh. Luke 6:20-21

For ye have the poor with you always, and when so ever ye will ye may do them good: but me ye have not always. Mark 14:7

Wilt thou set your eyes upon that which is not? for riches certainly make themselves wings; they fly away as an eagle toward heaven. Proverbs 23:5

A faithful man shall abound with blessings: but he that makes haste to be rich shall not be innocent. Proverbs 28:20

He that hastes to be rich hath an evil eye, and considers not that poverty shall come upon him. Proverbs 28:22

But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition. For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows. 1 Timothy 6:9-10

Charge them that are rich in this world, that they be not high minded, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who gives us richly all things to enjoy. 1 Timothy 6:17

The Apostle Paul also tells us of the sacrifices of the poor, needy churches of Macedonia (2 Corinthians 8:1 5). In spite of their “deep poverty” they gave “liberally.” Yet they are still in deep poverty after all the sacrificial giving. They were given the grace to sacrifice, rather than being rewarded financially for their giving.

(Mat 4:6 KJV)  And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.7 Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.

(Mat 4:3 KJV)  And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread.4  But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

BASED ON ISOLATED, DISTORTED VERSES SOME PERSONS WOULD HAVE US MAKE a false Positive Confession of our faith.

A confession that still  excludes God clear words is also wrong. It is a also sin of rebellion, lusts, presumption, theft. Often  called the doctrine of “Name it — claim it.” Recently I heard someone else call it the doctrine of “Blab it — grab it.” This is the doctrine that any believer can bring any thing into existence, as long as the believer exercises enough faith to accompany the verbal confession. You may still receive it next, but it is the devil, your own will that sends it to you and not god, with his approval.

In the same November 4, 1992 Praise-A-Thon broadcast, John Hagee said, “There is a relationship between your soul and physical and financial prosperity. ‘This book of the law shall not depart out of your mouth.’ That’s the spoken Word of God. ‘And then shalt thou prosper and have good success.’ When? After you speak and act upon the Word of God. And you’ve been hearing that tonight out of the mouth of John Avanzini (well known Faith teacher).”

While this doctrine is based on a false salvation by good works, and appeals to the flesh, it does not stand on any solid biblical foundation. Truly, God does instruct us to bring our requests by faith before His throne of grace (Matthew 21:22; Hebrews 4:16). However, it is the will of God which dictates whether a request will be granted, not the will of the believer (Matthew 6:10; 1 John 5:14).

Even in our acts,  prayer, requests we all still need to be lead by the Holy Sprit and not the devil or our flesh. Jesus was also tempted in every area of life like we were, are but Jesus was without sin cause he sought to please the Father in all he did. If in doubt ask God and he will also next still confirm it in his word the Bible

God still Is Not A Respecter of Persons is a truth we need to always remember too

The fact of the matter is that there is only one way of salvation. That is through faith in the finished work of Jesus Christ. God tells us that He is not a respecter of persons, which means that this single salvation plan is for everyone. The Apostle Paul makes these things abundantly clear in the book of Romans.

For there is no respect of persons with God. Romans 2:11

What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin; As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. Romans 3:9-11

Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. Is he the God of the Jews only? is he not also of the Gentiles? Yes, of the Gentiles also: Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith. Romans 3:28-30

Jew and Gentile alike must come to God by faith in Christ, and so receive God’s eternal salvation. There is no secondary plan of salvation for the Jews. If that were the case, Jesus would be nothing more than a liar. God forbid that any of us fall for this false doctrine.

 http://www.tbaptist.com/pbc/2006/pbc0605.html#c

Wine

If you took 2 martinis or 2 beers a day you are an alcoholic. Alcoholism is a crime and not a disease, it is a crime, it is just as lethal, bad, and it is really unacceptable as selling or taking bad drugs too. Canada’s bad drug problem, drunk driving, alcoholism is increasing not just amongst the teens, but also in the work place, in the government now as well even amongst the civil and public servants. Most major home violence, car or truck accidents are still associated with alcohol now too and not speeding. It’s a fact that drinking alcohol can seriously damage one’s health and cause permanent brain damage as well .Alcohol may lead to liver problems, a variety of cancers as well as forms of osteoporosis and depression, and studies are showing, too, that women are more susceptible to the ill effects of alcohol than are men.

Genuine Born Again Evangelical Christians are total abstainers

1 Cor 6:10 Nor cheats (swindlers and thieves), nor greedy graspers, nor drunkards, nor foulmouthed revilers {and} slanderers, nor extortioners {and} robbers will inherit {or} have any share in the kingdom of God.

We know that alcoholism is a terrible sin that now damages the person’s brain, affects their ability to work, to drive a car, and negatively affects their own behavior and affects many others too. The same reality is true of one taking now bad drugs as well. So I was also similarly shocked, surprised to discover the the falsely professing evangelical Christian Stephen Harper our Prime Minister likes to consume wine, alcohol, and he buys it for others as well.

Beyond a Biblical doubt the Genuine Born Again Evangelicals are total abstainers, like me, I never drink or touch wine or alcohol, at any time, nor do I give playboy, pornography, wine or wine glasses to anyone.

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http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/04/29/alcoholism/

http://anyonecare.wordpress.com/2008/05/23/good-and-bad-unacceptable-theology/
 

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